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Big Swedish Filesharing Server Seized
SmugJerk writes "Authorities are continuing to apply pressure on Sweden's filesharing community amid the trial of several principals of The Pirate Bay filesharing site. Today they seized a fileserver containing about 65 terabytes of files, corresponding to around 16,000 full-length movies."
Not to mention the fact that they insinuate that 65tb of files are illegal files, when they could be just about anything. I seem to remember hearing about a case of some guy busted for child porn or something like that and they announced on the news that they had confiscated "hundreds of video cassettes," and showed them on a table in the press conference. It later turned out that they were all like rental videos and crap, and the cops knew it, but were using that as a cudgel to poison public opinion and get the guy to cop a plea.
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This was most likely a dump site, so this probably means quite a lot of old stuff has gone off the grid now (they make the comparison in movies, but it is more than likely mostly TV shows).
New releases will find a new hub to distribute through, but it will take some time - also often with these raids the "scene" will go a bit underground, disconnect etc. until they are back to a comfortable level where everyone knows each other.
one of these home file servers:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/313/1051313/ibm-steps-home-media-servers
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Yeah, that's like the price of a used car... 10k US for the drives. Probably another few hundred for the computers. The rest is internet fees. $500/mnth in donations is pretty normal for these things. So it is doable.
My suspicion comes here. What could the server have? 65TB isn't just a lot, it is a suspicious amount. Lets break it down.
Say he has 800,000songs he serves (around 7years solid of music) that is 4TB of space. And lets say the rest is videos. That is about 88,000 DVDs. That since movies began there would be 880 movies a year worth watching. Movies werent that big until recently but I bet this year hollywood isn't going to release 880movies to theaters. This figure also blows away what netflix has to offer. Ignoring the fact that you would have to watch like 6 movies a day to get through the list. It doesn't make any sense.
Well, you probably would mod down a nazi elaborating the need to exterminate jews, no matter what his arguments were.
We too systematically mod down copyright nazis whenever they elaborate the need to exterminate information exchange or on the internet and wet dream about large scale for-profit censorship and mass punishments of filesharers.
New defence for the Pirate Bay: We are only helping the police. We hyperlink in an effort to prevent a crime by pointing out those servers
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This is vapor reporting from the Anti-Piracy Bureau. It seems that one server out of a ring of many, which might have had a total capacity of 65TB, is claimed to have been seized.
the police here in the UK do the exact same. they value cannabis resin by saying it costs £5 GBP per gram when in fact an ounce(28 grams) will cost you £30-50 GBP. it's a bullshit PR based accounting system based on prices from yesteryear and not based in modern reality.
The streets of Sweden are now again safe for copyright lawyers and trolls, movie studio heads and...um, well that's a start.
I hate the way this summary seems to conflate somebody with a big server who may or may not have movies on it with The Pirate Bay, who you may know, does not share movies from their computers.
If you are someone who believes that this crackdown on filesharing is a good thing, please put together your best argument, write it on a piece of A4 stationary, fold it in quarters and stick it as far up your ass as you can.
That made me feel better.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I wonder how many minutes it took for another server to put the same material back on line. Heck, it could be a challenge. We could get it down to a how many seconds type of contest.
This simply emphasises the need to have servers in different nations so that law enforcement remains ineffective in regard to copying software, movies and music.
Art is eternal, but the means for Artists to make money is evaporating.
As you stated Art school people make less. They do have to take jobs unrelated to there passion. Why is that?
Because unfortunately there are very few ways for artists to make a decent living wage.
So why take away from the industry that helps artists make money?
Yes some people are still doing well, but there is a whole new generation that are still trying to figure out if it's even worth it at all to pursue.
Are you liable?
No.
Yes.
Same goes with them. The moment they create the site allowed indexing and a search bar they became personally responsible.
So Google is "personally responsible" for everything it indexes ?
It wasn't even 65 TB guys.
They took down ONE server that was believed to be part of a TEN servers ring who IN TOTAL had an ESTIMATED 65TB of data.
The other nine servers went down to protect themselves, not because they were found.
No what am I going to do? I've got every mp3 in existance! I've got all color movies ever released, and then some. But now what? And don't say I'm stealing because I'd never buy any of this shit anyway.
It's like that philosophy riddle: If a movie is copied in the woods and nobody watches it, was it copied?
You can take this further too...
Am I responsible for the content of all banner ads cached on my computer? I downloaded them, didn't I? I have them on my computer because I chose to look at a site that chose to have those banner ads.
(note: this is hypothetical, as I haven't seen a banner ad in years)
I've never heard a stamp collector writes more letters or postcards than average.
Sorry to pour cold water on your analogy, but they do. I worked in Antarctica where we have special and unique stamps. Collectors would send us packages full of envelopes to send back so they'd get the stamps and nice stamps on them. During the winterover (9 months with no outside communication, locked out by the ice), there was a full-time mailman who was there just to stamp the shitload of envelopes sent by those guys. It did pay one fifth of the cost of hiring the ship to go there in the first place !!! The nicest of those guys would put some gifts in their packages (like a bottle of wine).
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So is what you were getting at more like (to use an analogy) "dolphin safe tuna?" You know, you can feel good about buying this tuna because we didn't kill dolphins? But it would be more like "Feel free to download, this is an "artist safe download" and it has an MD5 to verify or something?
If that is what you're talking about then that's not as bad as what I was envisioning they way I read your post, but I also have to say that voluntary licensing programs can become mandatory and it seems like that is the method by which unpopular legislation gets passed, you know..start out voluntary, people get used to it, gradually make it mandatory.
I guess I am just so concerned about freedom on the net. I think that every government (especially these western govts like UK/US) really badly want control over the internet, it's the only source of unfiltered information and unregulated collaboration and organizing potential - Governments seem to be increasingly intent upon control of information and the citizenry, and when you take the commerce that goes on online and potential taxes into account I feel it is only a mater of time before these dastardly evil statist types get their tentacles all over the net. I feel that the net is our only hope right now to protect those freedoms we still have, and to have sources of information that aren't corporatized/propagandized.
The artists are free to do as they choose, and let's point out that the majority of the fight against this isn't coming from artists, it's coming from industry protective groups who spend a lot of the time they aren't using fighting against this technology to do things to financially and artistically rape, rob, and exploit artists on behalf of their clients, large multinational media conglomerates.
Now I am not saying people should just download whatever and fuck the artists - but I think that the majority of downloads are not lost sales, and that a lot of people who download stuff still purchase music, movies, and software. I know I do - most of my downloads are authorized live music downloads, though i do download out of print things and some commercially available things too - with those if I like them I buy them, if I don't they get deleted. Software is the same way, though I rarely if ever download software that is pirated because most of it is filled with malware and most software has free trials.
A portion of my job consists of writing code, etc - and I have had my work taken and used without my consent before, and it was extremely frustrating....so I especially try to make sure to support independents in every way - whether it is music or software or what have you. I think a lot of people do the same, they likely have their own personal code of ethics related to this sort of thing.
I like your analogy; however, it needs to be extended a bit. The bank (RIAA) has built their vault (secure media) in the middle of your home (computer), however, they refuse to pay rent; in fact they even charge you (DVD license fees) for the irritation of having their vault taking up space (cycles) in your home.
They left a big hole in their vault (the analogue hole; various other holes) and now you are responsible for posting guards on that hole (make sure you don't file share their files). If you don't, then the police will come and get you (no analogy needed).
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