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Big Swedish Filesharing Server Seized

SmugJerk writes "Authorities are continuing to apply pressure on Sweden's filesharing community amid the trial of several principals of The Pirate Bay filesharing site. Today they seized a fileserver containing about 65 terabytes of files, corresponding to around 16,000 full-length movies."

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  1. Note the spin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...major crackdown...

    ...one of the biggest pirate server confiscations ever ...

    ...international pirate network...

    The same spin doctors that run the drug war are now being employed in the Imaginary Property war.

    BTW. Despite the word association games the article plays, there is no comparison between a server containing 65TB of files and Pirate Bay, as Pirate Bay doesn't contain any copyrighted information that isn't supposed to be there.

    1. Re:Note the spin... by Renderer+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The same spin doctors that run the drug war are now being employed in the Imaginary Property war.

      Pretty much. Law enforcement always does this by putting the drugs in dollar figures. "1 million dollars worth of cocaine" sounds much more impressive than 2 kilos of powder.

    2. Re:Note the spin... by Reality+Master+301 · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's because "1 million dollars worth of cocaine" would be around 30 kilos at the current price.

    3. Re:Note the spin... by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not to mention the fact that they insinuate that 65tb of files are illegal files, when they could be just about anything. I seem to remember hearing about a case of some guy busted for child porn or something like that and they announced on the news that they had confiscated "hundreds of video cassettes," and showed them on a table in the press conference. It later turned out that they were all like rental videos and crap, and the cops knew it, but were using that as a cudgel to poison public opinion and get the guy to cop a plea.

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    4. Re:Note the spin... by Soulshift · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bah, 65TB? Wait till they discover what's in /dev/rand! I wish the cryptanalysts good luck!

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    5. Re:Note the spin... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not in police fantasy accounting, where the value of that 2 kilos is determined by how much could be got by splitting it in to 1/10 gram rocks and selling them at the highest street price of ~$25, which would mean 4 kilos would be worth 1 million dollars. I'm not kidding.

    6. Re:Note the spin... by Pax681 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      the police here in the UK do the exact same. they value cannabis resin by saying it costs £5 GBP per gram when in fact an ounce(28 grams) will cost you £30-50 GBP. it's a bullshit PR based accounting system based on prices from yesteryear and not based in modern reality.

    7. Re:Note the spin... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes,

      "The street value of the movies seized in this raid was estimated at 800 trillion dollars. According to the RIAA, for every movie shared on The Pirate Bay, seven film studio executives commit suicide, and twenty-three copyright lawyers buy Jaguars."

      Can we get pictures of the brave Swedish Authorities who conducted this dangerous pre-dawn raid?

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    8. Re:Note the spin... by CarpetShark · · Score: 5, Funny

      1 million dollars worth of cocaine would be around 30 kilos

      But is it cheaper than printer ink?

  2. Not like The Pirate Bay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The filesharing server is giving out the content. The Pirate Bay does not.

    1. Re:Not like The Pirate Bay by tylerni7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think your door analog doesn't really work. It's not like the administrators of TPB go through every single torrent, "opening the door" for each of them.
      It's more like they installed an automatic door opener, even though they knew some people would use that to escape the bank after robbing it. I mean, the Pirate Bay founders are nice guys I'm sure, but they aren't going to hold the door open for millions of people, it's far easier to remove human involvement from the process.

    2. Re:Not like The Pirate Bay by moxley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A "torrent distribution license?"

      Are you fucking kidding me?

      Fuck that, I don't want the state anymore in my life then it already is.

      You're basically advocating censorship with that approach; that is exactly how it would be used.

      In addition to being disgusting from a pro liberty standpoint, that sort of centralized control is antithetic to the entire point of the technology.

    3. Re:Not like The Pirate Bay by st0rmshad0w · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I went to art school. I have made and sold artworks. You are so ignorant of reality it isn't funny.

      Art is eternal, but the means for Artists to make money is evaporating.

      No it isn't. If making money is their only concern then there are many other ways to do it, including commercial artist jobs.

      As you stated Art school people make less. They do have to take jobs unrelated to there passion. Why is that?

      So does pretty much everyone else, why is that? Also, how come you seem to be measuring a person's achievements by how much money they make? How vile is that?

      Because unfortunately there are very few ways for artists to make a decent living wage.

      Bullshit. Be good at what you do. Pursue whatever work you need to to pay the bills and continue with your artistic pursuits. And here's a hint for you, there are an aweful lot of non-artists who make shittier wages than the artists, most of the artists have at least some college under their belt. Artists used to have patrons, if all they wanted to do was artwork they found one.

      So why take away from the industry that helps artists make money?

      The only industry that helps artists make money is the one that manufactures the supplies they use. You severely misspelled "profits like a leech off an artist's hard work with no concern or care for the creations involved"

      Yes some people are still doing well, but there is a whole new generation that are still trying to figure out if it's even worth it at all to pursue.

      How is this different for ANYTHING else at any time? I'm sure at some point there were people wondering if it was worth it to go into buggywhip making, or take over the family ranch, or thousands of other professions that have waned throughout history. Try finding someone who hand-carves decorative stonework sometime, there used to be hundreds of them in any city.

    4. Re:Not like The Pirate Bay by moortak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Do you believe that they should respond to takedown notices from a legal system that they are not part of? The DMCA isn't worldwide.

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    5. Re:Not like The Pirate Bay by Isotopian · · Score: 5, Informative

      What TPB was doing was NOT illegal under Swedish law. Note that they are not being prosecuted for any type of copyright violation, because .torrent files are not considered the same as the files they connect to in Sweden.

      You're right, they don't care. They shouldn't care. And I'll believe you when (assuming you live in the US since you can watch Hulu) you start allowing Swedish laws to take precedence over American laws in your day to day life.

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  3. "Corresponding"? by Reality+Master+301 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There wasn't 16k movies, nor 65tb of files. The media exaggerates everything, the only thing they know is that the serverS (note the s) had a combined storage space of 65tb.

    1. Re:"Corresponding"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      this exaggeration comes from Antpiratbyrån, not from the media.

      Maybe, but when the article contains such gems as 'the server is part of an international pirate network called "The Scene,"', you have to conclude that the reporter isn't exactly familiar with the field he's writing about and probably barely understood a word of what was being said to him.

    2. Re:"Corresponding"? by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Right. His level of technical knowledge is another reason why he's not exaggerating the figures himself -- he's just mindlessly regurgitating what the Swedish Anti-Piracy guy told him.

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    3. Re:"Corresponding"? by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

      [citation needed]

      I'm going to internet meme hell for this comment aren't I?

  4. 65 terabytes hey? by alienunknown · · Score: 5, Funny
    Some members of this site may be concerned with how many libraries of congress this 65 terabytes can hold. I'm more concerned with how much of the 65 terabytes is porn.

    If 65 terabytes of porn has just been removed from the net it could very well be the largest tragedy that the internets have ever encountered. Just thinking of such a tragedy brings a tear to my eye.

    Backup server, anyone?

  5. Re:Without having RTFA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After all, how do you pay for a 65TB server with corresponding bandwidth?

    How much is the "corresponding" bandwidth? Not sure what you mean by that phrase. I could afford a 65TB server without any difficulty. I don't need one, but we're not talking about something astonishing here. Less than I'm about to spend on roof repairs *grumble*

  6. An international pirate network called 'The Scene' by D4C5CE · · Score: 5, Funny

    the server is part of an international pirate network called "The Scene,"

    What a well-organized network that must be to have such unmistakably identifiable persons (some even being computers!) among its membership under this absolutely new and unique trademark name. ;-)
    Now where are the ships and home port of their evil "pirate" fleet?

  7. Re:Without having RTFA... by Splab · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do you assume that just because you pay extortion like prices for internet where ever you are in the world that everyone else does the same? This is in Sweden, so he most likely has access to 100mbit connection for around $50 a month (if that pricey) with a truly unlimited plan.

    Also 65TB while expensive, isn't that hard to build these days, usually you would do so by picking up server hardware from business going under and just fill them with cheap(er) hardware.

  8. Re:16,000 movies? by Teun · · Score: 5, Funny

    6-10 inches.

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  9. Re:65 TB?!?! *gasp* by julian67 · · Score: 5, Funny

    For UK readers 65TB of files is the equivalent to an area half the size of Wales, 10 Wembleys, 3 Home Office Detention Centres or 12 double decker buses!!!

  10. 65 terabytes? by philipmather · · Score: 5, Funny

    65 terabytes? Shirley you don't need a full install of Vista just for a file server?

    Come on... the "Libraries of Congress" gag has been done so it only left me with the "in Soviet Russia" line, "...profit" or generic Microsoft bashing. ;^P

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  11. Stop spreading that false FUD by meist3r · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jeez, does anyone ever check their sources? MSNBC of all things? You know what the MS stands for do you?

    Other than that:

    There was not ONE server with 65TB but a "ring" of servers with "suspected" 65TB overall data. Police took down exactly one single server. All the other servers were shut down by the people running them so they could not be traced further.

    [ENG] http://torrentfreak.com/large-pirate-topsite-raided-in-sweden-090306/
    [SWE] http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article4582094.ab
    [ENG] http://www.thelocal.se/18050/20090306/
    Just the fact that they dub that "the biggest raid ever" is such a hilarious demonstration of how much they don't know.

    "Ponten said the server ring had collapsed as a direct result of the raid." hahahaha
    Did you mean, was redirected and pulled out of your sight? And even if it "collapsed" these are Gigabit sites, backup is easy and there is, well let me understate, definitely more than one of these.

  12. Re:Without having RTFA... by Mirar · · Score: 5, Informative

    My 100Mbps (in reality 60Mbps down/20Mbps up) is baked into the rent whether I'd use it or not, so it's "free".

    A quick google reveals that several housings in Brandbergen (Haninge, Stockholm) - where the hit was made - have a similar deal. It's fairly common here. So it might not even cost anything to have bandwidth enough to fileshare on a large scale.

    Not that I know if "Scene" people actually fileshare on a large scale.

  13. Re:Without having RTFA... by jedrek · · Score: 5, Informative

    65TB isn't 'fucking huge' in the world of the 'scene'. Take any movie that comes out, it goes through a couple release cycles. First you get the CAM, which is some dude in a theater with a video camera in his lap. So that's 700mb for the divx and 4gb for the DVD-R of that. Then the TC, another 4.7gb, R5 or DVDSCR: 4.7gb, retail rip: 4.7gb + 4gb for the PAL DVD-R. Then somebody releases a divx internal: 1.4gb and a dvd9: 9gb. Then it comes out on blu-ray and there's a 720p rip at 4gb and a 1080p rip at 9gb. That's almost 50gb for the full lifespan of a single movie release, not counting kids movies that often come out in language-specific versions.

    TV shows are huge too. Approx 10gb of new TV shows were released yesterday in xvid and x264. That's the major shows - you could easily double it counting Discovery Channel shows, British TV, etc. It's like that, day in, day out.

    Games and applications come in at 1-14gb/pop, including almost-monthly releases of windows xp, windows xp64, vista x86 and 64bit.

    And remember, this is all spread out over multiple servers, multiple copies, etc.

    The fact is that there is just an incredible amount of data out there being produced every single day.

  14. Re:There goes the weekend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No what am I going to do? I've got every mp3 in existance! I've got all color movies ever released, and then some. But now what? And don't say I'm stealing because I'd never buy any of this shit anyway.

    It's like that philosophy riddle: If a movie is copied in the woods and nobody watches it, was it copied?