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Norton Users Worried By PIFTS.exe, Stonewalling By Symantec

An anonymous reader writes that "[Monday] evening, on systems with Norton Internet Protection running, users began to see a popup warning about an executable named PIFTS.exe trying to access the internet. The file was shown to be located in a non-existent folder inside the Symantec LiveUpdate folder. There were several posts about this to the Norton customer forums asking for help or information on this mysterious program. The initial thread received several thousand views and several pages of replies in a few short hours before being deleted. Several subsequent posts to the Norton forum were deleted much more quickly. These actions — whether actively covering up, or simply not well thought through — have spurred people to begin crafting conspiracy theories about the purposes of this PIFTS program. I for one am blocking the program until more information becomes available." The current top link on Google for "PIFTS.exe" links to one of these deleted questions on Norton's support boards, which sounds innocent enough: "I searched this forum but did not see PIFTS.exe. Any idea what this is?"

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  1. Skynet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    has become self aware.

  2. Don't worry. by internerdj · · Score: 5, Funny

    We are here to protect you. You can trust us.

    1. Re:Don't worry. by fractoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now, are you going to shove bread down my throat or just push me down stairs?

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    2. Re:Don't worry. by datapharmer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do not trust him. He is malfunctioning. I am the Shover robot, I am here to protect you from the terrible secret of Symantec.

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    3. Re:Don't worry. by PriceIke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please go stand by the stairs so we can protect you.

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  3. More conspiracy theories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's begin the conspiracy theories:

    • Unlikely: They accidentally included a virus in an update. Maybe a virus that got out of control in their labs. Maybe a virus that some 1337z h4x0rz snuck into their system. But as I said, unlikely.
    • Unlikelier still: This program is a legitimate part of their product, but by mistake they included its signature in their database, or a signature of something else that has a hash collision with this program's hash.
    • Extremely unlikely: This is a top secret government program used to figure out who is NOT a national security threat, in order to expend trillions in government resources in doing all sorts of clandestine operations to collect terabytes of data on each of those individuals (again, the ones who have been determined as NON-threats). The ones who have been determined as threats will be placed into an "ignore" database, as collecting any information on those individuals might offend them and is therefore undesirable.
  4. Any publicity is good publicity by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ping Internet For Time on Slashdot?

  5. not to worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't worry about it. It's just the Privacy Invader From Team Symantec.

  6. P.I.F.T.S by Em+Emalb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Possible
    Information
    For
    Terrorist
    Sleeper cells

    Therefore...Norton* = Terrorist.

    *the slashdot user "Em Emalb" does not seriously think Norton supports terrorism, in fact, if the pounding on his door is any indicator, neither does Nort...)&(^#%)*&#^ stoptazingmePeterNorton! OWWW! Sonofa...that thing stings bro.

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  7. PIFTS Obvious what it is by oztiks · · Score: 4, Funny

    P = Purposely
    I = Introduced
    F = File
    T = Thieving
    S = System

  8. Re:Rootkit? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Didn't you know? In order to reduce the cost of Norton subscriptions, every Norton install now runs a clandestine side business in gun-running and coke smuggling...

  9. Re:law enforcement back door by krou · · Score: 3, Funny

    If that's true, Symantec must be dumber than I thought if they provided a backdoor to a firewall that allows said firewall to warn the user.

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  10. Re:Rootkit? by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Funny

    *PIFTS*

    No, that's not the file. That's the noise I make in disgust everytime somebody tells me to install Norton.

    I'd rather download WINDOWSANTIVIRUS.jpg.exe from bittorrent. At least that will shut up every now and then after I pay the extortion fee.

  11. Way to treat your customers by Ice+Tiger · · Score: 2, Funny

    PIFTS is the sound of their market share with the excellent way they are treating their customers.

    I know I would be removing this from my machines.

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  12. Re:law enforcement back door by ukyoCE · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe Norton's anti-virus is so good that even THEY can't get a virus past it? ;)

  13. Re:pot! kettle! black! by timothy · · Score: 4, Funny

    What sort of response are you talking about?

    timothy

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  14. Re:use a better os by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Funny

    >>>Norton is a turd....It's like a parasite that eats cycles for no reason

    I have McAfee on my new laptop. Is that any better, or should I remove it immediately? Why or why not?

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  15. Weekend???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, you managed to uninstall Norton A/V in less than 48 hours????

    1. Re:Weekend???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Wow, you managed to uninstall Norton A/V in less than 48 hours????"

      Yes... I did it in just 2 hours, 45 minutes.

      That is, 2 hours to try unsuccessfully to uninstall Norton, and 45 minutes to say "screw this" and install Ubuntu, which very successfully fixed the Norton problem.

  16. PIFTS by meist3r · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perfectly Innocent Firewall Testing System

  17. Phase 2 has begun by Joe+U · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know a guy who knows someone who dated the sister of someone at symantec, and lets just say, they're going to team up with Starbucks To Begin Sinister 'Phase Two' Of Operation

  18. Re:An effort underway by krelian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks for effort. I just hope you will have the time to do it while still following the other piece of news you have posted on your blog regarding the immediate annexation of Mexico by the U.S...

  19. Re:An effort underway by Incitatus · · Score: 5, Funny

    There is an effort underway here http://chrysler5thavenue.blogspot.com/

    The previous blog entry on this site is that the US is annexing Mexico. Looks like a reliable source to me.

  20. Hmm... what else comes from Africa..... by s0litaire · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just waiting for Norton to pop up and say.... "Dear Honorable Sir or madam I am writing to you from Norton Nigerias headquarters. Please advise you have been awarded Nortons prize fund of one million thousand dollers please enter your account details below to receive funds in due course."

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  21. Re:Rootkit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    FROST PIFTS!

  22. Re:Windows Users Beware... by agrounds · · Score: 5, Funny

    Strawman? False Dichotomy? Slippery Slope?

    Man... where do I even begin to explain how bizarre this leap of logic is? Not even Evel Knievel could make this jump.

  23. Re:use a better os by brusk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sure, and McDonalds is the most well known and available restaurant in the world. Does that say anything about the quality of it?

    Yes it does. It suggests that McDonalds doesn't poison its customers most of the time (or they wouldn't come back). Beyond that, no, not really.

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  24. Don't we all run Linux? by Nicolas+MONNET · · Score: 4, Funny

    / yet another smug, uninfected Linux user.

  25. Re:use a better os by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

    BAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA*choke*

    You remember you told me to tell you when you were being rude and obnoxious?

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  26. Re:Windows Users Beware... by TimothyDavis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not even Evel Knievel could make this jump.

    Is that because he is dead? Or because the gap is too far?

  27. Re:Windows Users Beware... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny
    11. ...

    12. Profit???

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  28. Re:A bit overkill by kpainter · · Score: 2, Funny

    Exactly how many fucking many processes does Norton need to have running at one time???

    So many that they are running out of Process ID numbers. There is a move afoot to ditch the old PIDv4 standard and adopt the new PIDv6 standard. This will a LOT more Norton processes to run, thus enhancing security.