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FFmpeg Finally Releases Long-Awaited Version 0.5

An anonymous reader writes "After many years of release-free development, FFmpeg, the most widely used audio and video codec library, has finally returned to a regular release schedule with the long-awaited version 0.5. While the list of changes is far too long to list here, some high-profile improvements include the reverse-engineering of all Real video formats, WMV9/VC-1 support, AAC decoding, and of course vast performance improvements across the board. To commemorate the 'lively' discussions predating the release, 0.5 is codenamed 'half-way to world domination A.K.A. the belligerent blue bike shed.' The new version can be downloaded from the official website." As another reader points out, FFmpeg is what makes some open source multimedia apps (like MPlayer, Xine, VLC and Kdenlive) so versatile.

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  1. M!! by xtracto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the reverse-engineering of all Real video formats,

    Sweet! does that mean that we are going to be able to play rmvb in the Wii soon?

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    1. Re:M!! by domatic · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Will has several ports of mplayer available. The version called MPlayer CE is the most actively developed.

      http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/MPlayer_CE

      It can be installed by the Homebrew Channel. The downside of the mplayers port is that they has no memory protection so attempting to play files that they can't play can crash the Wii requiring a hard reset. I've done this a number of times and haven't suffered anything evil like bricking the thing.

  2. "Regular release schedule" by saleenS281 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is one release after "many years" of nothing a "regular release cycle"? Wouldn't that require, at minimum, two consecutive releases? What if the next release isn't for another 5 years? Unless you're suggesting that is in fact their "regular release" schedule.

    1. Re:"Regular release schedule" by c0rN_g0aT · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think he was trying to point out that previously FFmpeg didn't have any release cycle at all. They wanted everyone to download and compile the latest CVS snapshot and use that. In fact, to get help from the mailing list they usually require that you download source and recompile first. The fact that they have locked in and officially named a release is significant.

    2. Re:"Regular release schedule" by wealthychef · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not "restarting." "Starting." They have never had a release schedule as they do not do releases. OR didn't. Whatever.

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  3. Re:Who cares about FFmpeg? You should. by thomasdz · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd like to point out that FFmpeg is what makes some open source multimedia apps (like MPlayer, Xine, VLC and Kdenlive) so versatile.

    Thanks for that info. I was reading the Slashdot article summary, where it says: "As another reader points out, FFmpeg is what makes some open source multimedia apps (like MPlayer, Xine, VLC and Kdenlive) so versatile." and was hoping that some reader like yourself would point that out because that factoid is only mentioned once in the summary and thus is not obvious to people who only read the scrollbars on their window.

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  4. Re:Who cares about FFmpeg? You should. by Inda · · Score: 5, Funny

    I too would like to point out that FFmpeg is what makes some open source multimedia apps (like MPlayer, Xine, VLC and Kdenlive) so versatile.

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  5. Re:Who cares about FFmpeg? You should. by Alphanos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Presumably he's the reader the editors were referring to...

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  6. easier blu-ray on linux? by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I noticed on the release notes that ffmpeg now supports TrueHD as well as the VC-1 for video, these are both commonly used on blu-ray discs. Maybe we'll get lucky and at least now we'll be able to play our blu-ray disc tracks on linux after we remove all the DRM, & HDCP nonsense. We could sort of do it before but it's a royal pain in the ass: just last night I had to go through about four different media players to blue-ray tracks in trueHD audio and some other weird video format before I found one that could actually play my disc without spewing out error messages every frame. Even then it seemed like the dolby 5.1 sound was messed up -- the voices were coming from behind us and the music from the front.

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    1. Re:easier blu-ray on linux? by LeafOnTheWind · · Score: 5, Informative

      We're working on it. Just to let you know, while I'm sure an official release will be useable, don't expect the raw source ffmpeg model to go out any time soon. I expect that bug fixes and features will be in the repository very quickly and if you have a need for these things, you should probably compile the code from source. You may also want to keep an eye on the mailing lists
      http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-cvslog/
      http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel/

  7. Re:Who cares about FFmpeg? You should. by rilles · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thanks for pointing out that fact. phew.

  8. Almost done? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, 0.5. Does that mean they're half way done?

  9. Re:Who cares about FFmpeg? You should. by BPPG · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would like to point out that teen pregnancy is an unfortunate problem that is difficult to prevent in our society.

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  10. That was always the most confusing part too by coryking · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There never was a real build for ffmpeg. Now that they've got a stable release, I wonder when they will start pushing out official builds for various platforms (say, Win32/64)?

    That said, could they actually push out binaries? One of the strange things with ffmpeg is that pretty much everywhere you go, it is compiled different. One system's ffmpeg will have a bunch of codecs installed and another will not. You can never really count on having something like H.264. Hell, I've seen one installation that didn't even have libmp3lame on it! Reminds me of PHP in many ways--so many damn compiler flags that you are pretty much guaranteed every system will be different.

    Is this a legal thing, or a "we dont have a good build process yet" thing?

    1. Re:That was always the most confusing part too by squallbsr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But they WILL sue companies that distribute these patented codecs. This is the real root of the problem is that Ubuntu, Fedora, etc, etc cannot distribute a fully functional multimedia system without paying prohibitive royalties.

      It is true that no individual is going to get sued for installing ffmpeg with everything compiled in, it isn't cost effective.

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  11. still no multithreaded h.264 decoding by mczak · · Score: 3, Informative

    Multithreaded h.264 decoding is what I'm missing. Still only slice-based multithreading support, which doesn't work with 95% the content out there, which means you can't get real time decoding of full hd content on A64 X2 (core2 cpus are probably fast enough even with one core, at least the faster ones). ffmpeg-mt branch fixes this, I wonder when this will be merged (still seems to be a bit buggy).

    1. Re:still no multithreaded h.264 decoding by the_crowbar · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you have an Nvidia 8400 or better card and driver version 180.xx (I think .37 is newest) you can use the VDPAU api to offload the video decode to your GPU. Just Google it to find the mplayer patches or maybe binaries. There are also some MythTV unofficial builds with it. It can allow a Sempron to easily play high bitrate h.264 video (i.e. BluRay).

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    2. Re:still no multithreaded h.264 decoding by Taibhsear · · Score: 3, Informative

      IIRC The next version of Ubuntu coming out in April (Jaunty) should have VDPAU supported media players and (if you have an nvidia card supporting VDPAU) driver 180.29 as the standard install. (ie, you won't have to compile the experimental mplayer anymore to watch 720p or 1080p files)

    3. Re:still no multithreaded h.264 decoding by the_crowbar · · Score: 3, Informative

      I am actually using Jean-Yves Avenard's Ubuntu repo where he maintains a Myth 0.21 (the current stable version) build with the VDPAU patches. He also has mplayer and the required nvidia drivers. If you're on Ubuntu it is easy to try out the patched mplayer without building your own. http://www.avenard.org/

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  12. FFmpeg in SUPER by DynaSoar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    FFmpeg is extremely powerful and versatile. Those words are, for the newer user, synonymous with difficult and confusing when the program is based on command line or a very simplistic front end. FFmpeg is very fully implimented (along with MEncoder, ffmpeg2theora and RealProducer) in the free audio and video format and parameter conversion front end software SUPER, from erightsoft.com. Free to download and use but not FOSS: small loss since it is, after all, intended for the majority of users who'd have trouble running such as FFmpeg native, those users hardly likely to want the source anyway. There are very few functions of the internal programs not implemented (setting a max output file size is one of the few). SUPER is extremely powerful while having every available function made as obvious as possible (and all have float-over hints), making it also useful as a training device for learning audio and video compression and conversion. The authors of SUPER clearly and repeatedly insist that their program is simply a front end, and that all credit for the power inside their program go to the programs they've built their around, and the authors thereof.

    A minor beef is they require you to use IE with security settings low in order to download it as well as participate in the (very well attended by the authors) chat area. The 5 year span since the last FFmpeg release is a complete surprise to me, a daily user of SUPER, because there's so much more of that program available through the front end than I ever use.

    I purchased DivXPro so I could convert everything to DivX, in order to play it on my DivX capable home DVD player. I found SUPER (with which I run FFmpeg almost exclusively for video) to be so much more powerful, flexible and faster, that I made the comment in the chat area that "SUPER does for free what others can't do for money". They liked that phrase so much that they adopted it as a motto. This is the sole association I have with the folks from erightsoft's SUPER project, just so your sure this is a testimonial, not an advertisement. One other small beef, they won't let you put it up for download elsewhere, even with the best of intentions on the sites with the best reputations. You can only get it from them.

    I'm quite confident that SUPER will make use of the greater power of the new FFmpeg. I'm less confident I and most of the other users who just want to make things go will learn all about them. For those that do want to learn about them, the SUPER front end provides an a priori description of what will happen if you select each.

    Bring it on -- no doubt erightsoft is already working on the new impplementation. In the mean time, check out the current version to find out how powerful FFmpeg already is. I'll bet you'll be surprised.

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    1. Re:FFmpeg in SUPER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Have you ever considered going into marketing?

      "Last week I used ffmpeg on the command line, and I broke two of my fingers while trying to covert something to divx. Today, I clicked a button for a GUI frontend to ffmpeg, and like the thousands of other GUIs, it converts stuff to divx."

      "Also, Larry the Lawyer got me $300.000,- from the keyboard manufacturer"

  13. Doesn't support Dirac by Burz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    WTF? I am supposed to use Theora if I want an unencumbered codec??

    At least VLC supports it directly.

    Incidentally, VLC is not so hot on OS X these days. Instead of using FFmpeg for everything it can, it defers to Quicktime and its plugins for anything it can. Which means that most of the time you will not get an alternative method of decoding with the latest VLC versions; I can play many more files with earlier versions.

  14. Hope this helps building a better documentation by egghat · · Score: 5, Informative

    ffmpeg is one of the pieces in the open source world that must have the biggest gap between usefulness and usability. Ever seen the man page? Gazillions of options! Some of them can be applied multiple times for input and output. Therefore the order of arguments is significant. Took a while for me to figure that out ...

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    1. Re:Hope this helps building a better documentation by DarkOx · · Score: 4, Informative

      FFMPEG is not something that I think is targeted at the end user to use on the command line. It works great for people like you and I who can figure it out. I can't remember all those options either but I certainly can and have created some shell scripts to build correct ffmpeg commands to produce output for the various media devices I own. Its nice to have this option, as I don't know of any software front end that would let me record directly from my DTV card and convert to the obscure mov+jpegB format used by my SANSA on the fly. Its to exotic a situation and something only a small number of people want to do. That is where the ffmpeg binary is great. It lets people like me to slap what I want together in some shell scripts and not have to break out the C compiler.

      Really the projects value is in libavcodec; which is used in all sorts of things like VLC, mplayer, Myth etc which are much more "usable" and target at the end user.

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  15. Re:Who cares about FFmpeg? You should. by leromarinvit · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd like to point out that teen pregnancy drops off significantly after age 25.

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