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Adobe Fixes Recent PDF Flaw, But Not Before Auto Exploit

SkiifGeek writes "With Adobe's patch for the JBIG2Decode vulnerability due in a few days time, new methods to target the vulnerability have been discovered that make it far riskier than previously thought. Didier Stevens recently showed the world how it is possible to exploit the vulnerability without the user actually opening an affected file, and now he has discovered a way that allows for completely automated exploitation that results in anything up to a Local System account without any user interaction at all and only relies upon basic Windows components and Acrobat Reader elements. There are some mitigating factors that limit the overall risk of this new discovery, but it does also highlight that merely uninstalling the Reader will not protect you from exploitation and does raise the possibility that other tools will access the vulnerable components and thus be vectors for attack." However, the fix is now in: nk497 writes "Adobe had finally released a fix for a PDF vulnerability discovered — and already exploited — last month. The update only applies to the most recent versions of Reader and Acrobat, with early versions and Unix editions not fixed until later this month. Adobe has taken its time with the patch, despite an independent security researcher releasing her own fix just days after the flaw was announced."

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  1. Do people even still use Acrobat Reader? by koro666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been using Foxit Reader for almost 2 years now.

    1. Re:Do people even still use Acrobat Reader? by larry+bagina · · Score: 3, Insightful

      by definition, bit-for-bit identical to Acrobat is not decent.

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  2. Uninstalling doesn't help?? by erroneus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is a big problem I have with a number of software vendors. Their uninstalls don't do a complete uninstall! According to the article, uninstalling the reader leaves exploitable DLLs behind and remain hooked into Windows Explorer. That is just bad behavior by this software vendor. Uninstall should mean "get rid of it and all parts completely" and that should include registry entries, obscured or otherwise.

    Software vendors at large have a pretty disrespectful view of end-user computers. They feel it is right and correct for them to effectively take control of the machines their software inhabits. They are very bad house guests indeed. It might be pushing a point, but all of this sort of behavior would seem to constitute some sort of criminal trespass into computer systems. I know that was certainly the case with Sony rootkits being installed.

    It seems to me the only effective way to be sure of what is on your Windows computer is to do a fresh reinstallation of the OS and all applications any time a software change is made... that would be an add/remove or delete of an application. Don't want Adobe leaving crap behind? Reformat your system and install from scratch. I know that seems extreme, but it is likely the only way a user can have any reasonable hope of maintaining control over his computer systems.

    1. Re:Uninstalling doesn't help?? by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd rather have an installer that breaks another app, so that I reinstall the first program just to get the shared DLLs. That way, no unnecessary cruft is left behind.

  3. Re:Abject Morons by v1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    how does an uninstaller that leaves DLLs behind ever pass a non-corrupt QA process?

    it's always either payoffs or deadlines. (usually deadlines)

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  4. Re:Abject Morons by digitalunity · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I believe that decision was made to make interactive PDF's possible. There was a serious case of feature creep in the PDF specification. This stems from Adobe really being out of touch with what users expected PDF to be(just a universal page layout format) and what they wanted to make it.

    PDF now supports buttons, Javascript and a whole slew of other features that for the most part are not typically used. In fact, anyone who wants to use those features probably shouldn't be using PDF at all since only the Adobe reader supports them! There isn't even a good open source PDF program that supports forms. Some readers display them properly, but none that I can find allow you to complete them and save the completed form.

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  5. Re:The patch is bigger than the install? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm sure the change log explains exactly what each of those 103 million bytes do, including the reasons for it being even bigger than the whole OpenOffice package, while still not being able to convert anything to a PDF.