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Kremlin-Backed Nashi Admits Cyberattacking Estonia
An anonymous reader writes "Russia's Kremlin-based youth movement Nashi admits being responsible for 2007 cyberattacks against Estonia. An interesting point is that when you DDoS the systems, it's not the fault of some people who want to crash it but instead the systems' for blocking their users due to technical limitations. So if I shot someone to death it's not my fault for shooting them, but theirs instead because of technical limitations of their body."
Or if the US caused the economic collapse of the Soviet Union, then it was their fault because of the the technical limitations of their communism.
I don't like Russia and how it acts, but if you're going to talk about Russia you've got to bring in their viewpoint. The Soviet collapse and economic disaster is seen as capitalist invasion, which has been beaten back from the gates of Moscow by Putin of the KGB.
It could have gone differently, but we were happy to let them sink, and we skipped numerous opportunities to encourage and support and demand democratic change alongside market reform. Bush let Putin do what he wanted as long as Putin backed Bush's Iraq policy. It was a poor trade and it's going to continue to cost us.
Funny, I thought that this story will bring bring Estonian nationalist. The only country in Europe that honors nazy SS veterans (http://www.webplanet.ru/news/security/2007/05/02/eesti.html).
To the point of DDOS attacks. Guy admitted responsibility for DDOS attacks in May 2007 (http://www.webplanet.ru/news/security/2007/05/02/eesti.html in Russian, babelfish is your friend) , where he said that he did it with group of Moldavian hackers. Moldova is an independent nation about 500 miles away from nearest Russian border. I know it is Slashdot and 2 year old news are still new but messing up with geography is just too much.
Kiddo, it was a grave of 9 men who died in WWII under this statue. Their remains were excavated with bulldozers, moved, lost and mixed up during the move.
Probably in that order, too - lost, then mixed up, right? I guess a guy in your TV box told you that?
Here's what actually happened: the remains were indeed extracted, carefully separated, and moved to a predesignated place along with the monument. Both the monument and the grave are fully intact at the new place. Unfortunately, quite a few Russians aren't aware of that, because the state-owned TV channels showed photos of the statue's feet alone standing on the pedestal, claiming that the rest was sawn off and dragged away (and then the bit about mix-up of remains, etc). A day later, people on the Net recognized the TV picture - it was actually a photoshopped pic produced several months before that by some Russian blogger as a warning and protest against the impending move.
By the way, during the reburial, Estonians did DNA analysis on the bones, and determined the names of the people who were actually buried on the site (until then, their identities were unknown). For four of those, after their identification, their Russian relatives have asked to turn over the bodies, which was done.
I'm tired of people falling for this Russian "people in the Baltics honor Nazis" propaganda crap. Motivation of those who actually volunteered to fight in Baltic Waffen SS divisions was to avenge their families killed or deported by Soviets in 1940-1941 and to prevent Bolshevik regime from taking over their country again.
The remains of the dead soviet soldiers were excavated by specially trained team (not by bulldozers) and were moved to a military cemetery (and not lost, and mixed up). What's wrong with you russians? Your lying is pathological.
Agreed. Estonia had to choose between two evils in WWII. They chose the one that didn't draft their young men at 5 am with the help of thugs and dogs, and the one who didn't sent their older men to Siberia.... just because (Both incidents occurred in my family in Estonia). Nazis were no picnic, but they were better than the Russians.
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