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PCLinuxOS 2009 Goes Gold
nerdyH writes "After nearly two years, the PCLinuxOS project has achieved a major new release, PCLinuxOS 2009. The project is notable for maintaining a Linux hardware compatibility database, publishing a freely downloadable monthly Linux magazine, and selling hardware pre-installed with Linux. It boasts a pretty vibrant community, too, and is used by 3.2 percent of DesktopLinux readers, according to an ongoing reader survey there."
PClinuxOS-KDE ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/texstar/pclinuxos/live-cd/english/preview/pclinuxos-2009.1.iso
PClinux-Gnome http://linuxgator.org/PCLinuxOS/iso/pclos-gnome2009.1.iso
I get full speed from the KDE link. YMMV.
Does it run Antivirus 2009?
If I had a nickel for every time I had a nickel, I'd be richcursive!
Dear Linux,
For the Love of God(For emphasis only)stop fragmenting!
Who presumably like' kde 3.5 *slashes wrists*
In other news today, (and I'm not joking), Bill Gates once again became the world's richest man *shoots self in head just to make sure*
And self-selecting surveys are always accurate...
with the 17,395 other distros that no-one uses.
It could be worse, they could have called it iPCLinuxOSMacXWin/2.
Fascism trolls keeping me up every night. When I starts a preachin', he HITS ME WITH HIS REICH!
It's easy to use and it's fast. Think of it like Mandriva for setup ease over Ubuntu, while performing like Xubuntu claims. If you like trying distros, you've got some older hardware, and you're not geek enough for Gentoo, PCLOS will be a quick favorite. Esentially instant no-fuss full KDE that's snappy on older boxes like p3 450.
That's not the intent of the project, but that'll be the distinguishing characteristic for the greater penguin masses. The actual intent of the project is only sufficiently different from other distros that we're talking a grain of detail lost to anyone who cannot name more than six current distros they've have in-depth experience with. And those people already know all about it.
PCLinuxOS is available in a Gnome version. If you've tried KDE-4.0 or 4.1 (I have) you understand is not is not stable enough, let alone feature-rich enough, for ordinary use. 4.2 is more stable on my UE (Ubuntu) but slow as snailmail (Pentium-M 1.6GHz) -- nearly unusable.
NB: I've used KDE since ver. 1.0 (1999) although its slowness made be fire up Blackbox instead many times. I tried Gnome v.1.0 when it was released, and its WM crashed every few seconds. I went back to KDE and avoided Gnome like a plague. The novelty of KDE-4 made me check it out. It did not work on my box. All I got was a three-second stutter on the screen and no audio at all. So it was go back to Mepis and KDE-3.5.10, which was not an option on UE-2.0-Xmas, or try Gnome again: What a difference 10 years makes! It is stable and usable. It can be made pretty. It does whatever I need, although the learning curve is steep, me having grown used to KDE all these years.
I may try KDE-4.2 or later once I finish my new box: Core-2 3.33GHz and 4GB RAM ought to be enough....
...said the download was slow and that KDE-3.5.10 was the desktop. I corrected both misstatements in my post. I did not recommend PCLinuxOS. I said I was downloading the Gnome version...to test it out.
If you want to check out PCLinuxOS and want a fast link, my post should be of value.
If you know you won't like it or don't need it, don't download it from my fast link.
I'm looking at distrowatch now and PCLinuxOS is 7th place with Ubuntu at 1st, not that I care however I find your comment confusing.
EVERY comment I make, Pudge's minions throw me a troll mod. It's nice to piss off Hitlerites.
Fascism trolls keeping me up every night. When I starts a preachin', he HITS ME WITH HIS REICH!
This is really just me guessing, but I wonder if the problem with KDE 4.2 being slow on your current machine is an issue of the graphics card as opposed to either processor speed or insufficient memory. At any rate, if you've got hardware that can handle it, KDE 4.2 is very bueatiful, usable desktop.
At some point last year (or the year before?) PCLinuxOS beat Ubuntu out for first place on the distrowatch rankings. I don't know why it happened, I don't remember how long it lasted, and I don't really know why it matters.
Yep, same here. ... Ubuntu 9.04?
Tried F10, PC-BSD 7.0.1, & Mandriva 2009, all with KDE 4.1 and noticed they all had subtle differences but all were hideously slow and squirrelly as hell. KDE4.2 is being promoted as equal in functionality to 3.5.10 so may be interesting to see when it makes it into a distro
Unfortunately I find Ubuntu is too unstable for my needs so still sticking to Lenny w/ KDE 3.5.10 for the foreseeable future.
"Suppose you were an idiot...and suppose you were a member of Congress...but I repeat myself." Mark Twain
I first tried Gentoo on an AMD K62 with 96 MB RAM. Back then, a usable system took at least a week if there were no compiler errors. Which there were, I never got it working because I gave up after the first week or so.
But now, Moore's law has largely mitigated this nightmare - you can have a working system in a few hours! Of course, the faster systems also obviate a primary need for Gentoo (performance) but...
I'm sticking with Fedora, thanks!
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
Not true, the richest men in the world are still the Arabian oil sheiks, most notably the Saudi king and royal family. But Forbes does not count these people as "men", claiming that they are states. The forbes "rich list" is BS as they go to extreme lengths to discount anyone who isn't from the US (the Queen of England cant even make the list as the richest land owner in the UK). If we include the oil sheiks Gates doesn't even make it into the top 10.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
This story gets accepted but the xfce 4.6 release isn't? slashdot has lost it's purpose... oh wait, never had any :/
I used KDE 4.1 for a while on a computer from 2004 - 2.4 Ghz, 1GB, 128 MB graphics card. It was as smooth as anything - it seemed to run even faster than KDE 3.5. I went back to KDE 3.5 though, because the 4.1 tended to crash. Apart from the crashing, yes, it was a very beautiful, usable desktop (even on old hardware).
I'm a software visionary. I don't code.
So what should we think of you then, A person who reminisces the reactions of other people to a meaningless event that must have been several years back?
Linux is all about NOT tending towards monoculture (not talking about the software project).
Variety is the spice of Linux :-)
The recommended way(TM) of starting to use Linux is to join a LUG and get hold of a mentor, so to say. This eliminates the need for painfully testing every distro out there and then finding out that so-and-so distro is good for your specific needs.
Therefore, I highly recommend use of virtualbox - it allows you to test drive the system without reintalls, it is free, freedom free too.
and it is super simple point and click to operate.
If getting distros is difficult, buy a CD/DVD if you can. If you cannot afford either, you can enlist your name at one of the "ShipIT" and free CD/media/DVD projects like Fedora has or like Ubuntu has or maybe you could get something from On-Disk
Nowadays, PC magazines on stalls also carry recently released Linux distros.
Point is, all those distros have their uses and many can be changed from one niche to another by simply downloading the additional packages from Synaptic.
The great thing about Linux today is that most distros are moving towards Synaptic for package management - so that installing and removing software has become standardized. That is a great thing - like an OOP "interface". ;-)
"Distro XYZ supports Synaptic interface for package management" -- future sales pitch
You just need a sensible, respectable or at least knowledgeable "mentor" to initiate you into the ways of Tux.
You also have Google.
If you ask me for my preference - PCLinuxOS - it is a rolling release - not for the impatient - for whom the Virtualbox solution is the safest.
PCLinuxOS teaches you so much patience when you jump about for "new features" that it is a path to wisdom by means of resisting temptation ;-)
IT is also rock solid and stable if you follow the basic steps always - install/remove packages from Synaptic ONLY.
Ubuntu is about the zoo, but they do make stable updates after the release - and what marketing clout / street-cred it has!!
PCLinuxOS is for the safety-first people, who have been ravaged by distros and features (PackageKit in FEdora 9 or KDE4.0 in various distros, come to mind, for example)
This is really just me guessing, but I wonder if the problem with KDE 4.2 being slow on your current machine is an issue of the graphics card as opposed to either processor speed or insufficient memory
KDE 4, the Vista under the desktop environments. SCNR.
I hope this will get better with Qt 4.5. I like most of the KDE apps over their GNOME counterpart (KMail vs. Evolution, KPdf vs. Evince, ...) but they are unusable because of their current "speed". A working desktop search would be nice, too. Nothing I've seen so far comes close to Beagle. What I really don't like about KDE 4 is Plasma, but that's another issue...
It's sad to see all the hate on here for PCLinuxOS. It has always led the pack as the distro best suited for mainstream adoption. Between HW compatibility, ease of installing, UI and snappy running speeds it puts every other distro to shame (Ubuntu included).
Be happy, this is a huge milestone for Linux!
KDE 4.2 is in the Ubuntu 8.10 "proposed" repositories, mostly (the packaging for Kate is broken at the moment). Running Ubuntu-proposed is probably a bad idea for anything but a personal or experimental machine, though, as it breaks every now and then. As you don't like unstable distros, it's almost certainly a bad idea for you, but there might be other people around here who want to try it out.
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Too many distro's and disjointed projects in linux land. Confusion alert.
Hey, watch your fucking mouth, asshole.
Because a 2.4 GHz CPU with 1GB RAM and a 128MB display adapter is so anemic and old in the context of desktop wm performance!
The main reason for ubuntu's success is the way they make propaganda and let people think it is user friendly when in reality they have a long way to go. The ubuntu forums are huge partially because people have so manny problems with it!!
people still cant trust ubuntu to have the gui tools they really need, the chance of missing features and missing gui tools is still high for some tasks esspecialy by default.
pclinuxos uses the mandriva control center which makes it instantly superior over ubuntu.
ubuntu has been trying to reinvent the wheel for years and still has not reached the user friendly luxurious ease mandriva and pclinuxos users are and have been enjoying for years.
mandriva and pclinuxos are very much alike but mandrivas repositories are much larger than those of pclinuxos so I prefer mandriva.
pclinuxos on the other hand
seems better polished better looking and optimized. or atleast thats the feeling they seem good at giving the user. and feelings do count.
It has always led the pack as the distro best suited for mainstream adoption.
Bollocks it has!
Between HW compatibility, ease of installing, UI and snappy running speeds it puts every other distro to shame (Ubuntu included).
Bollocks it does!
Be happy, this is a huge milestone for Linux!
Bollocks it is!
PCLinux users are obviously delusional and have never actually used mandrake/mandriva, Fedora, Ubuntu or any of the other userfriendly linux distros out there.
I think you're modded "troll" only because there's no such thing as "unfunny". If there were a "you-THOUGHT-you-were-funny-but-you-really-really-failed" mod, then I would be begging others to "mod parent up" at this point.
In all fairness, the replies below your post are even worse that your original. Even my own reply here is below my usual standards, and had to therefore be anonymous.
So I guess in all fairness to US... your post was so lame that it make all who came after lame for having followed you.
"PCLinuxOS 2009"? Seriously?
Any relation to "Windows Antivirus 2009"?
(the Queen of England cant even make the list as the richest land owner in the UK)
Being pedantic, the Queen is the only land owner in the UK. When you buy a house here you don't buy the land, you buy the "freehold". This isn't just archaic legal mumbo jumbo. It reflects the fact that you don't own the land (the Queen does), just the right to live on it rent free.
THAT is why forking is necessary.
Fork you, asshole !
and my dad uses it, my two brothers also use it. They're very happy with it. They curse windows now. just my 2 cents here.
Does anyone else think the name PCLinuxOS is dumb? I guess it's the generic terminology crammed into a single word, but it makes me think 'first day in a community college computer class'.
- Everything that you like, sucks.
Either that, or the people who modded me down were Nazis. Which is more likely?
Fascism trolls keeping me up every night. When I starts a preachin', he HITS ME WITH HIS REICH!
I have used PCLinuxOS 2007 for some time now. It has been pretty good. In fact, it seemed to me to recognize hardware (wireless, RAID, etc.) better than any distro I tried with the possible exception of SUSE. Fedora is too unstable and too much of a moving target. For me, CentOS goes on my servers (live, production machines in a multi-million dollar company), PCLinuxOS is used for quick and dirty booting on machines on the bench and Windows replacement on workstations. I like Debian too, but configuration is more involved. I have some NAS devices based on Debian. It just runs and runs - no problems. Every time I try Ubuntu and Gentoo I am not impressed (JMHO). PCLinuxOS is the type of distro that you just install and use out of the box. If you want to customize, maybe it's not for you. For non-for-profits of people that get donated computers, PCLinuxOS is your friend.
Yep, over a year after their initial release of KDE4 (pre-release, beta release, developer's release, who the hell knows what they were trying to do), and the KDE team still doesn't have a stable working environment. It's slow and clunky, and the only real advantage at this point over 3.5.X seems to be worthless eye-candy. Admittedly, almost of the stability issues are due to plasma.
KDE needs to drop Aaron Seigo like the dead weight he is. He's dragging the project down.
It looks like kde 4.2 will be in Ubuntu 9.04.
Hmm... well I suppose one can't really argue with that logic.
KDE 4.2 is in the current 9.04 alpha releases of Kubuntu. I upgraded my 8.10 installation to the alpha release the other night. A couple of hiccups here and there that I'd guess will be smoothed out over the coming month.
The most annoying thing was that I lost my restricted codecs. I understand full well why Ubuntu can't distribute the codecs in some countries like the US, but I don't understand why the existing codecs vanished. Most of the time it doesn't matter to me because I generally use smplayer/mplayer and build the latter from svn snapshots. I only discovered the codecs were gone when I suddenly couldn't play MP3s in amarok.
The best desktop linux available.
is (was) the name of the utility I mentioned. You might find it in the 'etch' repository, and, if so, it might install and run on ubuntu-8.10; I have successfully installed one or two 'etch' .debs with success.
I dunno what it might have to do with a swap file, but -- whatever.
Good luck!
People generally use an OS they feel is better for the purpose they intend to use it for. So an OS has to have a target of users that they want to reach. They need to offer something that will make people see something rich in their OS.
What does PCLinixOS have? Who actually benefits from using PCLinuxOS as opposed to using any top quality Linux OS or even a Windows or a Mac?