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FOIA Request For Pending Copyright Treaty Denied

Penguinisto writes "According to CNET, Knowledge Ecology International's FOIA request for information about ACTA was denied. ACTA is the pending copyright treaty believed to have been authored by lobbyists for the content cartels. Even stranger, the denial cited 'national security reasons (PDF). While it is not unusual for the White House of any administration to block FOIA requests for national security reasons, one would think that a treaty affecting civil interests alone wouldn't qualify for such secrecy. Not exactly sure what involvement the former RIAA mouthpiece Donald Verelli (a recent Obama pick for the DOJ) may have in this." KEI is not alone; the European Parliament wants to see the ACTA documents too.

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  1. All the more.... by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wait... Didn't Obama say he was all for transparency? How less transparent can you get that you can't even disclose a treaty about copyright without it being a matter of "national security". Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

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    1. Re:All the more.... by CodeBuster · · Score: 4, Informative

      You do not get to be president by being a nice honest guy

      Generally speaking that is probably true. However, Gerald Ford, the only US President who was appointed rather than elected (yes, that is possible albeit highly unlikely in our system), was by all accounts a genuinely nice guy. Of course, he sort of "fell into" the office of President so perhaps he should be considered an odd exception rather than the rule.

  2. Power by internerdj · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think Obama has found a lot about how much power other people have in Washington in the past couple of months. He seems sincere about his desire to change things but change isn't going to come from one person.

    1. Re:Power by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 5, Informative

      He's only been in office for a 2 month! How much could he do/not do in 8 weeks? Not very much.

      He's responsible for every decision that has been made in the past 8 weeks. I'm a fair man, and I'm willing to say that processes that were in place as he took office aren't his fault... but that doesn't sound like it was the case here at all.

      The whole "Obama has broken his promises" thing is basically nothing but something Republicans babble about because they are sore losers.

      No, it's the truth. He broke his promises before he took office (see: promises about the FISA bill, which turned out to be bullshit when they weren't politically convenient for him any more), and he's breaking them now.

      Furthermore, attempting to polarize this matter into "omg Republicans vs Democrats" is naive of you, at best. I've already seen people who were happy Obama won, who have renounced their support after seeing what he's done so far in office. Not everything is about some stupid bullshit party allegiance.

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  3. ACTA is more than a "Copyright" Treaty by langelgjm · · Score: 4, Informative

    FYI, ACTA is much more than a "Copyright" treaty. I wish that's all it were about, but the "C" in ACTA stands for "Counterfeiting". There's been a recent rash of seizures of legitimately produced generic drugs in the Netherlands, all on concerns about "counterfeiting." The pushing through of ACTA is likely only to make this sort of nonsense worse, and the effect on people's lives is real.

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  4. Lets be accurate: by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

    (b) This section does not apply to matters that are--

            (1)(A) specifically authorized under criteria established by an Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy and (B) are in fact properly classified pursuant to such Executive order;

    Bold added by me.
    http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/foiastat.htm

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  5. Obama... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    may not have anything to do with this. His calling for transparency doesn't mean that every request for information comes across his desk. I'm sure that there is a lot of Bush-era cruft that is yet to be uncovered and rectified.

    That said, take a look at this page on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

    Specifically the part about ISP Cooperation
    "ISP cooperation

    The leaked document includes a provision to force Internet service providers to provide information about suspected copyright infringers without a warrant, making it easier for the record industry to sue music file sharers and for officials to shut down non-commercial BitTorrent websites such as The Pirate Bay."

    More people truly need to be informed about this. I personally think conducting this act in secrecy says all I need to know about it. It should be protested against and voted against.

  6. Re:national security by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your description of the "Equal Opportunity Amendment" sounds like the Equal Rights Amendment. Except that the ERA was strongly supported by NOW. Additionally 35 states ratified the ERA (although 5 have rescinded their ratification before the deadline for ratification passed). Finally, the ERA window of opportunity was the 70s, not the 80s. Otherwise your post describes the Equal Rights Amendment.

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  7. Re:national security by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 3, Informative

    Can you give an examples where the government worked against the will of the people?

    I think so, although some of these could probably be debated:

    • Southern Confederacy's desire to secede.
    • War in Vietnam.
    • Forcing the legality of gay marriage in Massachusetts (Mass. supreme court vs. majority of the state's voters, I believe.)
    • Possibly Prop 8 in California, depending on how that state's supreme court rules.
    • From some individual states' perspective, Roe vs. Wade
  8. Wha?? Are you getting this from Conservapedia? by langelgjm · · Score: 5, Informative

    First of all, as others pointed out, you must have meant the Equal Rights Amendment.

    Second, I'm fairly certain that NOW was one of the main forces behind the ERA, and that it was conservative forces raising fears that the ERA would lead to mixed-sex public restrooms and public funding for abortions which managed to shoot it down.

    In fact, now that I look, NOW's website appears to support the ERA, so I have no idea where you're coming up with this stuff.

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  9. Ammend the constitution? by wfstanle · · Score: 3, Informative

    While I agree with your sentiment about the need to rework the treaty ratification process, you are wrong about the process of amending the constitution. I suggest that you read up on the amending process.

    There are two ways to change the constitution. First (and the only method that has been used) is by adopting an amendment to the constitution. It's an involved process where BOTH parts of the US senate must vote (possibly by a 2/3 vote, but I am not sure) to PROPOSE an amendment. Then the legislatures of 3/4 the states must approve the proposed amendment. Only when both steps are fulfilled can the amendment be added to the US constitution.

    The second method is to form a second constitutional convention. The new constitution would have to be approved by 3/4 of the state legislatures. The second option probably will never be used because it allows wholesale changes.

    Also note that the president of the US or the supreme court have no role to play. For practical purposes, changing the constitution is unlikely to happen. Also note that it is very hard to change the constitution because that is what the founding fathers intended. I think your real gripe is about the secrecy. This can easily be changed by a simple law that tightens what can be classified as a national security issue.

  10. Re:national security by Rary · · Score: 4, Informative

    Government really should not be involved with religious sacraments and marriage is a religious sacrament.

    Actually, marriage existed as a civil institution long before religion stuck its nose into it.

    Perhaps what would be better would be for marriage to remain in the civil realm, thus avoiding any religious influence on who can marry whom, and instead allow religious institutes to perform "spiritual unions".

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  11. Don't be pedantic; or rather, don't be wrong. by langelgjm · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Tyranny of the majority" is exactly what democracy is. That's why the USA is a republic instead.

    Please. Quit being pedantic and using a definition of democracy that dates back to Aristotle.

    Actually, it's not even pedantry, it's just plain wrong. The definition of "democracy" is simply not "rule by the majority without any checks and balances" as everyone with the chorus "The U.S. is a republic not a democracy" seems to think.

    Just in case the "tyranny of the majority" that is the English language doesn't convince you, I'll provide an appeal to authority for you. "Democracy" defined by the Oxford English Dictionary:

    1. Government by the people; that form of government in which the sovereign power resides in the people as a whole, and is exercised either directly by them (as in the small republics of antiquity) or by officers elected by them. In mod. use often more vaguely denoting a social state in which all have equal rights, without hereditary or arbitrary differences of rank or privilege.

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