Battlestar Galactica Hosted At the UN

TheDopp writes "The United Nations hosted the cast and crew of Battlestar Galactica Tuesday evening in New York. Clips of the show were shown as discussion points during the event, touching on the morality of Suicide Bombers in war, Abortion and the use of torture on enemies of the state. At one point during the event an attendee mentions 'the "Old Man" launched into a passionate speech about casting off the idea of race as a cultural determinant, and said we were one race, the human race. His voice echoed throughout the chamber growing louder until — I kid you not — he was yelling, "So Say We All," and the crowd answered right back. Hell, even I yelled it, I was in the fraking United Nations with Adama, the gods themselves could not have stopped this moment.' The full video of the event is located on the UN website."

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Bastards made piece with the Cylons

[tjstork]

I'm still bitter about Col Tigh being a Cylon.

Still bitter.

Curse you, Ronald Moore.

Re:Bastards made piece with the Cylons

[LateArthurDent]

I'm still bitter about Col Tigh being a Cylon.

Curse you, Ronald Moore.

Because having someone who absolutely hates the Cylons find out he is exactly what he hates the most isn't interesting? That was the best thing to happen for the show. Not only it forced him to see the Cylons in a different light (he understands that they didn't get to choose who they are), but it was a good way of having everyone around them start questioning whether or not the "toasters" are inherently evil, or whether they can be negotiated with.

Re:Bastards made piece with the Cylons

[ObsessiveMathsFreak]

The last episode I ever watched was the Season 3 finale. I was simply too disgusted to go on. Bod Dylan was bad enough, but Col. Tigh being a Cylon simply confirmed that the writers are awful, awful hacks who would slowly but surely destroy the show with ever poorer plot twists.

I could go on a massive rant about this but... ..... fuck it. Shut up and listen.

Of all the characters in the entire show who are least likely to be cyclons, Tigh tops the list. In Season 1, the show was quite fun. Cylon suspicion was like a little game. You'd move people up and down the suspects list based on their actions or on certain events. It enhanced the paranoia.

But through it all, you had certain fixed points of reference. For example, Boomer was obviously a Cylon from day one. That was one end of the scale.

The other was Tigh.

Of ALL the characters ALL of them, Tigh was least likely to be a Cylon. Practically from the first episode, he became the clear fixed point at the opposite end of the scale. The "NOT A CYLON" fixed point against which all other suspects must be cleared.

Tigh is:

a) Too old. His being a Cylon makes no sense, and never will. He was alive and kicking before the Cylons even rebelled. He's known Adama for years. He can't be a replacement, and he can't have been created prior to the first war. The prospect of the hideous narrative contortions required to justify this decision were the primary reason I stopped watching the show. Since then, I have heard disturbing rumors, which makes me very glad I did.

b) He's a stone cold anti-Cylon racist. His stolid mistrust and hatred for the cylons makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in the context of Cylon agents plotting and committing acts of subterfuge. At least the others had ambiguous morals or moments of reflection. Tigh has only contempt for all things cylon, another reason for his being the shows first "NOT CYLON" fixed point.

c) No leadup. There is something in drama called "Deus Ex Machina". Basically it means the writer pulls something completely out of their ass with no hints, inlkings, forewarning or premonitions. There's a very simple rule here which Tigh's "revelation" breaks. Any plot critical devices must be introduced at least twice before being used. It a fundamental fact of literature which even a 10 year old writing a two page story will grasp. The BSG writers it seems, did not.

This raises the question( or begs if you want), why the hell did the writers make Tigh a Cylon. The answer is obvious.

The writers are hacks.

Hacks, hacks, hacks, with delusions of grandeur. "Yes, people will never suspect Tigh so I will make him the Cylon just to show how much of a genius I am." How much of a fool more like. Pretension and desperation, not literary skills brough the show to that dreadful train wreck in the last 15 minutes of Season 3. A plot wreck from which there is no escape, no respite and no going back.

In that moment, the show was irreparably broken, shattered into a thousand splinters, never to be mended or remade again. You may as well have made Boomer really a human as made Tigh a Cylon. Either would have had the same effect. The utter ruination of a once proud storyline and its inevitable degeneration into ever more bizarre plot holes, twists, turns, mazes and dead ends.

And Tigh is merely the worst, and most grievous offense. The Chief is a lesser, but by no means small contradiction all of his own. Foster will fit, but again no buildup. Of the four, only Anders makes any real sense. The rest are poor choices, whose selection reveals the essential problem. They didn't select the Cylons in advance!!!!

If it was me, I would have written it like Straczynski wrote Babylon 5. Firm series outline, and emergency trap doors. The Cylons would be known in advance and clues, minor and major would be scattered throughout the show pointing subtly towards them. The series would be a grand game of cat and mouse between the audience a

Gah...

[marco.antonio.costa]

Screw the UN, freaking self-important parasites.

Grrrrrr, liberals, grrrrrr :-)