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Want a Science Degree In Creationism?

The Bad Astronomer writes "In Texas, a state legislator wants the ironically-named Institute for Creation Research to be able to grant a Masters degree in science. In fact, the bill submitted to the Texas congress would make it legal for any private group calling themselves educational to be able to grant advanced degrees in science. So, now's your chance: that lack of a PhD in Astrology and Alchemy won't hold you back any longer." The Institute for Creation Research made a similar request to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board last year, but were shot down.

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  1. That's Fine With Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I mean, real schools offer up degrees in philosophy, pottery, and basket weaving and who knows what.

    Let's not throw stones so easily around here.

    I love how slashdot posts these creationism stories to stir up the flamewars and mock the religious.

    1. Re:That's Fine With Me by unlametheweak · · Score: -1, Troll

      What schools give degrees in pottery and basket weaving?

    2. Re:That's Fine With Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Here's a bunch. I just SMOKED YOU BITCH!!! Don't ever question me again!! YOU GOT PWNED!!!

    3. Re:That's Fine With Me by unlametheweak · · Score: 1, Troll

      I may be "PWNED", but you didn't answer my question. You did give me a Google list of art colleges, etc.

    4. Re:That's Fine With Me by dov_0 · · Score: 0, Troll

      A "science" degree in creationism certainly isn't a degree in science. There is no way I would ever hire anyone with such a degree. If anything, I would see them as potentially being very disruptive in the workplace.

      Why not? Same facts and figures coming out of the research done. Same methods. Just a different set of biases used in interpreting the data. At least Creationists acknowledge their bias. Other scientists just call their 'theories' to be 'fact'.

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    5. Re:That's Fine With Me by unlametheweak · · Score: 1, Troll

      People with religious agendas should not mark Trolls Insights and Informative:

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1170155&cid=27278273
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1170155&cid=27278335

      And they should not mark my informative posts Troll:
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1170155&cid=27278305
      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1170155&cid=27278373

      because (1) You are making yourself look foolish and reactionary
      (2) You are wasting perfectly good moderation points

      Also. If you are still here. Mark this post Troll as well. I will certainly do my best to help you get rid of your Mod points so that you won't abuse them with other people's posts.

    6. Re:That's Fine With Me by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1, Troll

      This is exactly as informed and insightful an understanding of evolution as Ben Stein's description of "lightning striking a puddle of mud."

      In other words, it's not actually about evolution, and it's also an incredibly poor understanding of abiogenesis.

      How did life start on earth? I've heard a lot of different 'non-God' views--lightning strike, perfect chance meeting of various bits of 'life goo', etc... But no one seems to be able to reduce the problem further. What created the earth? Ok, what created the universe? Ok, what created the big bang, etc...

      Eventually, it boils down to "We're not sure".
      In other words, there's no proof of how it happened.

      The same can be said somewhat of religion. If God created the heavens and the earth, what created God?

      Ultimately, no one really cares what irrational beliefs you hold -- the vast majority of scientists are religious. The important point is to understand the difference between an unfounded belief and actual science.

      I didn't state a belief on scientists being religious or not. I agree with you that people need to understand the difference between an unfounded *belief* and scientific *proof*.

      Unfortunately it goes both ways. Take the global warming debate for instance. Some people are flat out certain the oceans will be boiling in 10 years. Others have debunked that claim. And yet others have debunked the debunkers. Hell--I remember when carbon dating was considered absolute proof--then they figured out they were off by quite and bit and had to re-estimate everything again.

      Don't be too quick to jump on the "it's proven" bandwagen.

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    7. Re:That's Fine With Me by unlametheweak · · Score: 0, Troll

      My above post was NOT a Troll. Who keeps up-modding the Trolls that, for example state that "I just SMOKED YOU BITCH!!!" when these posts just give red-herring and bogus links along with their insults? ... It does nothing for the cause of religion. What it does do is just make the religious agenda appear more fanatical to neutral parties.

      I will keep on exposing you religious nuts for what you are. Are you going to mod this post a Troll as well?

    8. Re:That's Fine With Me by unlametheweak · · Score: 0, Troll

      You obviously have a lot of religious friends who will moderate you up and moderate all my posts down. But that just means that YOU lose, because it exposes your community for what it is. You can moderate me down (again) because you know that I am Insightful. The Truth shall set me Free. I become stronger with every down mod.

  2. I am often embarrassed to be a christian. by DallasMay · · Score: -1, Troll

    I know you know this, but please believe not all Christians are this dumb. Most christians are honest thoughtful individuals who work hard, volunteer, and contribute positively to society. And further, when oil peaks and busts, we'll be happy we still have the Churches out there to help care for the sudden and temporary rush of poverty across the nation. That is what the church is for, helping people who are in need. Not Creationism. And most christians would agree with me.

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  3. Re:You guys are missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Creationism is not science, and should not be equated to one.

    And "evolution" is science??? Uh.... it's been tested and demonstrated and is reproducible under controlled circumstances? Where? When? By Who? Oh yeah, I forgot... it's a matter of faith! Faith that rejects God is now called Science, where faith that accepts God is quackery. Lots of "open minded" folks here!

  4. Evolution is BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    As always, and far too often, I am making my regular anti-evolutionary post to a pro-evolution writeup on Slashdot.

    The evidence disproving evolution is so strong and conclusive, it is pretty much a proven fact that it is incorrect. The people that try so hard to expose the communistic conspiracy against it are all held as loonies, as the general public have been brainwashed all too well.

    The evidence for creationism is strong, and most of the stuff you think you know about it is likely wrong.

    See http://www.bcmin.us/main/?q=node/31

  5. Re:Working vs. Teaching by arminw · · Score: -1, Troll

    ...If a fossil is ever discovered...

    Fossils are actually a big problem for the theory of evolution. A key requirement for evolution to take place at all is time, immense amounts of time. Nobody has ever made a fossil, especially by the mechanism of evolution which requires so much time. We know that today no fossils form because any living matter is attacked by microorganisms. To make a fossil requires sudden-death of a living creature, such as a dinosaur and immediate sterilization of the remains to kill ALL microorganisms. Only after that can slower mineralization processes begin to operate and make a fossil. There is simply no known process, whereby such a wide variety of organisms could be fossilized. If you are an evolutionist that says that fossils give evidence for your theory, then make a fossil, say of any fish, to show by the scientific experimental method how this might have happened.

    (...a unique biochemistry that couldn't possibly have arisen through common descent...)

    Why does it have to be common descent rather than a common functional design requirements? A sparrow, Cessna airplane and a Boeing 747 all have wings and tail as well as other necessities in order to fly, yet no one argues, common descent. The same is true of a stagecoach and a modern automobile in that they both have wheels and operate on roads.

    The idea of common ancestry is an assumption (belief) in the same way that common functional design is an assumption, because nobody (except God) was there when it all began. The common functional design idea definitely holds true for ALL human creations, so why should it not hold true for the orders of magnitude more complex living world? If God (who was there) chooses to communicate a limited amount of information how he did it, we may believe, or not, the truth of such communication.

    All human creations originate in human minds. So what is so unusual in claiming that natural creations originated in a mind; the supreme mind of God? I see no problem with believing that God made the first living cell and every other living creature and now our scientists get to figure out HOW it all works and use that knowledge for human betterment.

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