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New Bill Could Shift Federal Cybersecurity Work From DHS To White House

CNet reports on legislation currently being drafted that would transfer federal cybersecurity responsibilities away from the Department of Homeland Security. Instead, they would fall under the authority of the Executive Office of the President, creating an Office of the National Cybersecurity Advisor. A tech commission recommended relieving the DHS of cybersecurity responsibilities late last year, saying it simply wasn't prepared to deal with organized online threats. More recently, the director of the DHS's National Cybersecurity Center resigned, citing interference from the NSA. The new legislation would "put the White House National Cybersecurity Advisor in charge of coordinating cyber efforts within the intelligence community and within civilian agencies, as well as coordinating the public sector's cooperation with the private sector. The advisor would have the authority to disconnect from the Internet any federal infrastructure networks — or other networks deemed to be 'critical' — if found to be at risk of a cyberattack. The private sector will certainly speak out if this provision is included in the final draft of the bill, a representative of the technology industry who spoke on condition of anonymity said."

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  1. Multiple fearmongers? by RagingFuryBlack · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Great, so instead of the DHS being the only great fear monger, we now are going to create a new office to replicate it? How is DHS not the most logical place for cybersecurity? Intelligence is there, let THEM act on it. No need to increase the size of the government and have some other moron (who probably didnt pay his taxes) waiving his arms around at a puff of smoke...

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    1. Re:Multiple fearmongers? by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Something tells me that the DHS "Ministry of Love" will not lose all of its capability in cybersecurity scaremongering and related sabotage of citizen's rights. Instead, the White House will just have a "Ministry of Truth" spreading its own brand of FUD and fostering oppression of legitimate activities. Expect considerable inconsistency between the two, possibly including persecution competitions: "we're tougher than them" and suchlike.

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    2. Re:Multiple fearmongers? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't have any conviction one way or another, but saying that the DHS "isn't prepared to deal with organized online threats" doesn't provide a convincing rationale for having the similarly unqualified president's office take over the brief.

    3. Re:Multiple fearmongers? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not entirely sure if this will play out as you think it will, but I'm certain it's not good news for us "consumers" - previously known as citizens.

      DHS, at least, has bureaucracy to worry about and fight through. The Executive is, essentially, the President. Thats worrisome: the Presidency already has substantially more authority than the President did 4, 8, or 12 years ago. Bush drastically increased that authority, and Obama does not seem like the kind of person who wouldn't use it to its fullest extent.

      Moving yet-another (major) responsibility/power under the President makes me uneasy. Unlike DHS, the President is an innately political creature. The potential for abuse of political opponents is very high.

      For those of us following the doublespeak-inspired Fairness Doctrine, this is kind of scary. I really don't want them to push through the same BS "fairness" filters to the Internet, especially since all major news is now being filtered through said Internet, now that the newspapers are going tits up.

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  2. Finally! by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

    Antivirus software I can believe in!

  3. On one hand by gravesb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's good to see that the White House thinks cyber security is important enough to move it into the Whitehouse, where they will be closer to the President and better prepared for power struggles. On the other, wasn't DHS supposed to cut through all the bullshit of turf wars to make us secure, or at least more so? If they can't do so, what justifies the new cabinet position and the accompanying increase in government size?

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  4. US Government Offline by Wingsy · · Score: 3, Funny

    "The adviser would have the authority to disconnect from the Internet any federal infrastructure networks -- or other networks deemed to be 'critical' -- if found to be at risk of a cyberattack."

    Looks like the entire US government is going offline soon.

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  5. Abolish DHS by Whammy666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about we abolish the DHS altogether? What an expensive boondoggle it turned out to be. The worst part is that it got formed because the various intelligence agencies were engaged in turf wars and refusing to share info on possible threats to the US. The solution? Create another monster agency. Sigh.

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    1. Re:Abolish DHS by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'd support dropping DHS as a ludicrous "master agency" whose proposed components correctly ignored it. But who will handle cyber security, which is in fact a large and growing problem.

      FBI? Not competent, and can't deal with international issues.

      CIA? Also not competent, and can't legally deal with national issues.

      NSA? They have the technical expertise, but no political sense. They're far, far, far too criminal, and primarily takes in information: they seem congenitally handicapped from giving out necessary or truthful information. (See their Clipper Chip and Skipjack fiascos, that "so complicated no one can be bothered with it" nightmare known as SELinux, their warrent-free tapping of the AT&T backbones with fiber-optic splitters and secret rooms, and numerous misadventures for the last 30 years.)

      Secret Service? Less competent than the CIA, despite their existing role in handling wire fraud, which they do very badly.

      DIA? Apparently competent, but _not_ legally equipped to deal with civilians.

      The result is that there is no agency with the legal support and the technical capability to deal with this mess, especially since so much of it is the fault of the federal government for their history of insane policies on encryption and authentication technologies for public use. (Do you low-numbered Slashdot users remember Phil Zimmerman's PGP legal problemas, and having to sign multiple documents to get DES enabled versions of operating systems, and the craziness of 80-bit SSL keys?)

    2. Re:Abolish DHS by amck · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bad understanding of the purpose of creating the DHS.

      To the classic question "who watches the watchers" (and avoid your govt being overthrown and controlled by the intelligence agencies, pace Putin), the traditional answer is "each other". Create mutually antagonistic agencies, preferably in triplicate, fighting over turf, and reporting as high as possible up the chain of command. Eg. CIA, reporting to Defense, FBI reporting to Justice, Secret Service reporting to Treasury. All with overlapping responsibilities. As well as looking out for mistakes made by each other, should anyone try to subvert you, they will be ripped by the others,
      and no one is indispensable, as a bad CIA can be punished by breaking it up / shrinking it, giving its turf to its competitors, and the prez can do so in the name of "efficiencies".

      To see how this works, consider Nixon & Watergate: Nixons gang effectively subverting the rest of the government using cronies in the CIA. But they didn't
      have control over the FBI which (through the Washington Post, and others), cleaned out the white house crooks.

      The same methods are used not just in the US, but in Europe (eg MI5 / MI6 / Special Branch in the UK, etc) to avoid subversion.

      Now, in this light, consider a White House under Rove & many of the old Nixon gang, "merging" all the agencies under one roof, the DHS. Including the old nemesis, the FBI ... Its a method of controlling the intelligence agencies under Bush, and avoiding the same fate as Nixon.

      Now consider what happens under Obama.
      The DHS will be quietly dismantled; every excuse to split power back up into different agencies will be taken.

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  6. because checks & balances are just so complica by quibbler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, the framers of the constitution wanted inefficiency to be built into the government, it prevented it from being 'too good' at robbing citizens of our rights before we knew it was happening.

    This whole administration is dangerous.

  7. Not really. by lwap0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think the current cyber security guy quit for a number of reasons, not the least of which was the NSA - he also couldn't get much support from his own team in DHS. For those who actually swim in those waters, everyone major three letter government agency has their own 'cyber taskforce'. And they'll be dammned if they're going to share or collaborate any of their work with others - just mention the word 'cyber', and congress will start dumping a ton of funding on you. You start taking that away, and suddenly things get personal - now you're talking cash, and you always want more funding. It's also aggravated by mission creep - suddenly another three letter agency adopts a mission similar to yours, but this is YOUR mission, you're the experts, everyone else can go hang. Most agencies will not bow to another no matter how the executive office structures it, plain and simple. While I think that the executive office taking the lead role is probably a sound move, a part of me wonders if it's just more bureaucratic shuffling that achieves nothing.

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    1. Re:Not really. by WindowlessView · · Score: 2, Interesting

      everyone major three letter government agency has their own 'cyber taskforce

      This is first and foremost a turf war over a potentially huge budget. Broadly speaking the battles are between civilian and military agencies but an incredible amount of infighting is being waged within each group.

      It's not clear what the White House is thinking here. I rather doubt it is a naked power grab. More likely they are looking either to (a) park this in the White House until things shake out and calm down or (b) are looking to set up something akin to the National Security Council framework to oversee things.

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  8. Good and Bad by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, DHS is staffed by total incompetents. I used to work with two of their original top ppl. They were a group that was loyal to W and the neo-cons first, then loyal to the corp, finally, loyal the nation. Total idiots.
    Second, NSA was suppose to have this. It is their job to protect our electronic frontier. They were doing a good job of it (QUIETLY), until DHS jumped in. And as to the interference, it was a good thing. DHS was back to trying to push America on one standard.
    Finally, I am not convinced that moving this into the white house is a good thing. For our operations to be protected, it is going to require a NONE POLITICAL GROUP. NSA is OVERALL A-political. The white house by definition is political. Even if Obama is moderate (not sure that he is), and tries to be none political, it is certain that everyone around him IS political.

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  9. Executive branch by eples · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Isn't the DHS within the Executive branch anyway? They do what the President tells them. What difference does it make if it's physically there inside the white house.

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  10. Re:because checks & balances are just so compl by Arslan+ibn+Da'ud · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm no constitutional scholar, but I suspect that inefficiency was meant to be applied to Congress, not to the Executive Branch (which DHS, CIA, NSA and other TLAs are part of). The inefficiency was meant to prevent bogus laws from making it on the books. (you can argue that the inefficiency fails at this, but that was its purpose), not to prevent gov't from enforcing the laws it does have.

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  11. Re:because checks & balances are just so compl by Quothz · · Score: 2, Informative

    This whole administration is dangerous.

    I was not aware that the administration was responsible for Congress' proposed legislation or a commission's report. Let's at least wait until the White House has issued some sort of statement before condemning Obama over this.

  12. Three words: Separation of Powers by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Clearly this administration has no regard for the Constitution and the fact that this sort of power-grab is precisely why the branches of government where created the way they were. The fact that this cybersecurity department would report to the executive branch means that it doesn't report to Congress aka The People. Congress could demand transparency all they want and the Office of the President can tell them to go pound sand...once the department is created. Doing things under the guise of FUD and then absolving themselves of any responsibility is the hallmark of this administration. Notice I didn't say Obama. IMHO, he's not savvy enough to pull this stuff off on his own. IMHO, the real power lies behind the throne.

    1. Re:Three words: Separation of Powers by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ahh, but Obama is exactly who you should be worried of. A couple of points.

      1. Obama believes the redistribution of wealth should be framed at the Judicial rather than the Legislative branch.

      2. Obama stated the constitution should be interpreted as what the government should do for you, *not* what it's allowed being prevented to do.

      I'm sure you heard this 4min radio interview, but in case you haven't I will post the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

      Folks, if you think the Bush administration was bad, Obama should scare the hell out of you!!!

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  13. great by Lord+Ender · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Every four to eight years, we will be replacing all the networking equipment, even the cables, with parts from, coincidentally, the company that donated the most to the President's campaign.

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