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Strip-Search Case Tests Limits of 4th Amendment

langelgjm writes "The US Supreme Court has agreed to review a case involving the strip-searching of a 13 year-old girl who was accused of possessing prescription-strength ibuprofen on school grounds, in violation of the school's zero-tolerance drug policy. The case has gained national attention because of the defining role it will play in determining which, if any, parts of the Constitution apply on school grounds. In Morse v. Frederick, the Supreme Court has already upheld the right of school administrators to restrict students' free speech at school-sponsored events that take place off school property. The school described the strip-search as 'not excessively intrusive in light of [the student's] age and sex and the nature of her suspected infraction.' The Supreme Court's last decision about searches on school property dealt only with searching a student's purse. Incidentally, the girl was found not to be in possession of any drugs, illegal or otherwise."

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  1. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    This man is a traitor and should be sacked for treason. There are countless things his government has already done tht exceed the limitations of POWER in the US constitution. He is so bad, that not even "ICC" or "General Welfare" clauses can be used to justify this monster's actions. Its horrible.

  2. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Whoever marked this offtopic on a YOUR RIGHTS article is a fucking moron, a traitor and censoorship. If I ever command authority to clean up those who prevent the civil rights of others, I would have whoever just comitted treason against free speech incarcerated for treason and sedition. Squelching the TRUTH and squelching FREE SPEECH is an active attempt to deny others civil rights. Obama is an evil, gun grabbing HYPER spending dollar ending TRAITOR and should be imprisoned immediatly. Bush should be in the same cell with him.

  3. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama is basically Tom Zarek who never made it to jail. Obama will rule just like Tom Zarek did in BSG-Reimagined.

  4. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The banking kingpins are lower forms of life than drug kingpins. The Federal Reserve System is controlled by the very same banks that it is supposed to be regulated. Obama is a little tools for the Fedral Reserve. The US hasn't had a real President since Eisenhower and JFK. Everything since has been a sham.

  5. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    If you party like Rome, you fall like Rome. The American Empire is ending from really terrible and insane emperors. Ron Paul was right. And you don't have to be a Kreskin to see what Ron Paul said and all of which has come true. You just have to be slightly educated. I guess that means America is getting a representitive government. Partially educated dangerous enabled self-important fucking moron politicians are representing a large body of partially educated dangerous enabled self-important fucking morons.

  6. Re:Tip of the ice berg. by evolx10 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Good public schools are unable to exist in this overly whiny democratic cesspool. And homeschooling relies on the abilities of the parent.

  7. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama is totally inept, incompetent and scary. This republic will possibly fracture under these stresses. Its awful. We are all waiting to lose our jobs and the Chinese and India-Indians are coming to take our jobs and standard of living!

  8. I'm a Muslim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Just let some infidel dog strip search my daughter.......

  9. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I travel a lot for business and have lived as an expatriate, All over Europe, in China, in Korea and Eastern Europe. America has major problems but I'm always glad to come home (please, don't tell me health care is better in Europe, please.) With Bush in charge, the reckless spending was annoying. I figured that Obama couldn't be worse than Bush. I was dead wrong. This guy is a unhinged train wreck who is a fake, he is a false construct, and empty suit, nothing between the ears and a manipulated sad little man who is running the biggest group of scary un-intelligent leadership along with the scariest stupidest people like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Its bad, its bad its bad. And through my travels I have discovered, this is it, the last bastion of a free life. And that is about to end. Thanks Obama. Thanks.

  10. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Democracy at work. A minion busy supressing the thoughts of others. You are a little cog in a machine to stamp out free thinking. Good job, there buddy, good job. You are an inspiration to freedom.

    LITTLE FETUS

    D'you want to be aborted little fetus?
    Or d'you want to enter the world?
    D'you think you'd like pollution?
    Politics and war?
    Or maybe a religion
    And settle an ancient score?

    You don't know what it's like out there
    Your mama doesn't want you
    And your papa doesn't care
    And you'd be a pain
    A drudgery and a drain

    D'you want to be aborted little fetus?
    Or d'you want to experience?
    D'you think you'd like sunsets?
    Dogs, jokes and sex?
    Or the thrill of mind and muscles moving
    And knowing you're a being
    Who can love?

    You don't know what it's like out there
    Your mama doesn't want you
    And your papa doesn't care
    And you'd be a pain
    A drudgery and a drain

    But then again?

  11. Re:Father should be facing charges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I TOO AM AN INTERNET TOUGH GUY.

    Do you jack off all over your gun collection?

  12. Re:Been following this for awhile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and change you can believe in will strap you and your grandkids with more debt. No taxation without re

  13. Re:Been following this for awhile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and change you can believe in will strap you and your grandkids with more debt. No taxation without re

  14. Re:Been following this for awhile. by Qrlx · · Score: -1, Troll

    Actually, come to think of it, isn't this exactly what that part of your constitution about carrying guns is for?

    No. The Second Amendment of our Constitution guarantees the slave states the right to quickly put down slave uprisings on their own (with a "militia"), rather than wait for the National Guard or the Federal Army to intervene.

    I'm not denying the existence of Foundational rhetoric purporting a right to bear arms as a check against tyranny. But as a practical matter, it was about slavery. Quite ironic, actually.

    Ask yourself this: How many times were arms used to fight the tyranny of the government? There are a few historical examples (Whiskey Rebellion, Civil War, Wounded Knee) but they are few and far between -- and, to date, unsuccessful. Now, for how many years were privately-held guns used to keep slaves in check? You are invited to "do the math."

    The purpose of the Second Amendment was to allow slavery to continue unencumbered, despite the regulatory and military power of the new Federal government. Any other explanation (and the accompanying rhetoric) is window dressing.

    It's willful ignorance to suppose that the Founding Fathers recognized the necessity of firearms to prevent tyranny, but didn't acknowledge their role in maintaining slavery.

    But don't take my word for it.

    "To disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -- George Mason

    "No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion. -- James Burgh

  15. Re:The Plan: Get Kids Used to it in school... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and change you can believe in will strap you and your grandkids with more debt. No taxation without re

  16. Re:Tip of the ice berg. by unlametheweak · · Score: 0, Troll

    On the other hand, it's a guarantee that when they step into "the real world" they're going to have to deal with jerks, liars, and blowhards. If you want science, I suggest you read..

    I've spent enough time in what you people claim to be the "real world" to know that I would rather live in "reality" than the "real world".

    "If you want science, I suggest you read..."
    If you want to talk with me I suggest you stop the bullshit and ignorant patronizing. If you are intelligent then you would be without an agenda and would use good arguments to back up your claims. So far you are wasting my time and my patience. I'm calling you out on this just to make sure the casual reader reads you more carefully and doesn't take you too seriously.

    You can argue all you want, but argumentation does not change reality. Your linking article "The Coping Mechanisms of Children with School Refusal" is a nice Troll (not the article itself, but the fact that you referenced it). And your poorly worded rhetorical arguments about "the real world" expose themselves for what they are. I'm not here for a series of contradictions, I'm not even here for an argument. I'm here to discuss and enlighten, and hopefully be enlightened. Agenda's are more suitable for Usenet.

  17. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I feel like a William Wallace or a true freedom fighter trying to spread the truth while the Statist media lies to the public and world about our evil back-breaking president who is trying to expand the powers of the executive to dictatorship levels.

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spendin

  18. Re:Been following this for awhile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and change you can believe in will strap you and your grandkids with more debt. No taxation without re

  19. Re:Been following this for awhile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and change you can believe in will strap you and your grandkids with more debt. No taxation without re

  20. Re:Been following this for awhile. by Qrlx · · Score: -1, Troll

    Well, you're wrong. America's economy depended on slavery. Guns were necessary for slavery. Connect the dots.

    Or continue to believe your fairy tale; it's a free country after all.

    Look, I don't disagree that without an armed citizenry some Federal power might have swooped down and brought injustice. But it should be obvious that without armed slaveholders, slavery itself would simply have been unworkable. Thus, the right to bear arms was in fact a concession to the South. Without the Second Amendment, Congress could have de facto ended slavery simply by outlawing personal possession of firearms. It was this concern on the part of the slave states that led the amendment to be drafted in the first place.

    Then, to sell it to the whole, they came up with the rhetoric you espouse, that it protects us from tyranny.

    Where was that protection from tyranny during the Whiskey Rebellion? Why do you continue to believe it's about protection from tyranny when the armed populous was crushed by the Federal government as early as 1791?

  21. Re:Been following this for awhile. by kestasjk · · Score: -1, Troll

    When you're the guardian for a child which could have enough meds to be lethal there's no time to fuck around for a judge to issue a warrant. If your child has a bunch of pills scattered around it are you going to call a judge to see if you can get a warrant to see if it took any?

    If these goth kids had taken the pills and the supreme justice was calling the president to check on whether a search would be constitutional I think you would be just as pissed off. (Actually the scary thing is that you wouldn't be; for a child death is a much better fate than being seen in your underwear)

    This ruling encourages: 1. Students to sue over nothing. 2. Teachers to care more about laws than the students they're the guardians of.. Way to go jcr, you noble pedophile slayer you.

    Anyway I'm not American; doesn't bother me if this 19 year old gets a fat check from the taxpayer because she stood in front of two women in her underwear and it "ruined her life". Since you're getting played for a fool I guess you might as well feel righteous about it.

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  22. Re:Been following this for awhile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    If you are in NRA, then READ THIS, and learn it.

    The greatest threat to liberty is that fucking baboon in the whitehouse.

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia

  23. Re:Been following this for awhile. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and change you can believe in will strap you and your grandkids with more debt. No taxation without re

  24. Re:Been following this for awhile. by TheCarp · · Score: -1, Troll

    Your point? Rules are rules, school administrators follow the rules.

    Not suspected of trafficing illegal drugs? Yes she was, the drugs were prohibited for her to have in the school, she was suspected of exactly that.

    I roundly reject the idea that this should be treated as some special case. Either they have the authority to prohibit this sort of activity, or they don't. Period.

    I love this case because it tests peoples feelings on the issue. Yes... this is what drug laws mean. Once you start, this is the conclusion. Enjoy the world this social experiment called prohibition has created.

    Thanks.

    -Steve

    --
    "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
  25. Re:Been following this for awhile. by kestasjk · · Score: 0, Troll

    Your argument was that the teachers needed to go to a "competant authority" (not sure what authority that is exactly).

    My point was that the teachers are the guardians of the children while they're in school, and when it's known that a group of 13 year old friends have enough drugs to kill themselves most parents (that aren't looking for some quick cash from the public schools) would want the drugs to be found asap

    If it's serious and no-one is turning up the drugs better to play it safe than deal with a suicide (or is it better? with cases like this the clear answer is no, they should have been left to do what they like with their drugs)

    I don't know who could go up to the female teachers who searched her 6 years ago, without touching her or getting her to take her clothes off, and call them child molesters. I think people are judging the situation with gut reactions3

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  26. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The more you mod me down, the more I waste your mod points from moderating up the stupid shit you would try to push on others. And, if you look around, your moderations have done nothing to stop me. I have a few saved-screen shots of this screed being moderated UP, and several of them receive supporting messages. If you can't see how badly you are losing this little "mod tiff" and the fantasy you've done anything to stop me, you're simply confirming I have nothing to worry about since you are a simple idiot.

    Also, the ad-hominem attacks and a lack of an ability to refute any of that Obama screed proves my point about people like you. Petty, stupid and unwilling to see the truth. QED, dummy.

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, inte

  27. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by bigjarom · · Score: 0, Troll

    Assistant Principal Kerry Wilson: KWilson@saffordusd.k12.az.us

  28. Re:Tsarkon: from pizza to politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

    - This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund

    - Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read.

    - President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
    - Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info )
    - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
    - Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
    - Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
    - Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
    - Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
    - Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
    - Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
    - Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
    - Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
    2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA
    2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA
    - Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and change you can believe in will strap you and your grandkids with more debt. No taxation without re

  29. Re:Been following this for awhile. by steelcaress · · Score: -1, Troll

    The purpose of the Second Amendment is very simple. Once the American Revolution was underway, King George's generals were confiscating weapons from the Colonials. The right to bear arms is expressly for a well-organized militia to repel the British. Anything else is window dressing.

    Any gun nut who says a polite society is an armed society has never been shot over a disagreement. What?

    The Second Amendment was very clear on the reason why. It's just that the first part of that sentence is always ignored.

  30. Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt the US Tsarkon Rep by unlametheweak · · Score: 0, Troll

    What is happening is that special interest groups are normalizing this aggressive and authoritarian policy

    Are "special interests" the new name for communists and terrorists? What are you talking about?

    It's groups and individuals that belong to the neo-conservative christian right. I thought this would be obvious, seeing as how they are making themselves quite public. There is an example in the journal entry I submitted yesterday.