Utah Governor Vetoes Jack Thompson's Game Sales Bill
Not long ago we discussed news that the Utah Senate and House had both passed legislation worked on by Jack Thompson that would add restrictions on how game advertising interacted with the rating system. The bill itself was poorly amended, and many questioned whether it would have the effect its sponsors desired. GamePolitics asked a First Amendment rights expert for his opinion on the matter, and the National Coalition Against Censorship spoke out against the bill, urging Governor Jon Huntsman to strike it down. Fortunately, it appears he took their advice (or that of many lobbying retailers), as the bill has now been vetoed. Huntsman said, "The industries most affected by this new requirement indicated that rather than risk being held liable under this bill, they would likely choose to no longer issue age-appropriate labels on goods and services."
It's gratifying, and somewhat surprising, to see state officials put a stake through the bloated, foetid, rotting corpse of that ridiculous little man.
The guy's always been a noxious little puke, but when he started having a crack at Penny Arcade, it became clear just how deranged a nut-job he was.
Sorry, I don't really have anything to add to the discussion. I just really wanted to smile and breathe a sigh: Yessssss...
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now if only he would veto Jack Thompson too...the root of all evil...well...root of evil stupidity anyways.
hopefully, a "suddenoutbreakofcommonsense" tag gets added to the post.
Despite being a Mormon, a particularly hard line religion that considers alcohol so awful that they have enacted laws making booze buying in that state pretty difficult, he's actually for rolling back regulations on booze hounds, so this is not particularly shocking to see Huntsman do this. Bravo, Gov. Huntsman! Let's see you bring Utah into the *20th* century, and hopefully the 21st by inertia of it all.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
I don't know if it's appropriate to tag this article as such. Jack Thompson is a known nutcase and I'm sure that game lobbyists hold some sway since gaming hasn't suffered as much as other industries in this recession. The governor's decision is at least as much politics as it is personal feeling.
mmmm...forbidden donut
GamePolitics asked a First Amendment rights expert for his opinion on the matter, and the National Coalition Against Censorship spoke out against the bill, urging Governor Jon Huntsman to strike it down. Fortunately, it appears he took their advice (or that of many lobbying retailers), as the bill has now been vetoed. Huntsman said, "The industries most affected by this new requirement indicated that rather than risk being held liable under this bill, they would likely choose to no longer issue age appropriate labels on goods and services."
(emphasis mine)
I'm optimistic that we'll see a lot more stories in the coming year like this one, of governors vetoing similar game-sale restrictions - or of state legislatures not passing these bills at all.
But it's not just because of First Amendment issues. Apparently, that hasn't been a problem for the legislatures passing the bills in the first place. I think the downturn in the economy will wind up helping the game industry here.
This governor clearly got the message: "the economy is in recession, and this bill would make it less likely that your state would have sales in a certain industry." And he wisely decided to veto the bill, so that game retailers in his state (WalMart, Target, EB/GameStop, ..) would continue to sell games. No doubt someone also showed him the sales numbers for the top games and how many of them would be affected by this bill (rated M). And so, had a bill like this already been on the books, those sales would not have happened in his state. I can't see any governor wanting to sign a bill that prevents money entering his state's economy, not at a time like this.
Money drives a lot of things, and the economy clearly drives decisions at the government level.
It sounds like Jack and the state lawmakers forgot that the ratings on games are not required by law and done voluntarily. Ooooops.
Ain't it great when lobbyists work in our favor?
It's nice to see something happen in "our" favor once in a while, but realize that this isn't. Yes, the outcome seems to be what people want: Less invasion of privacy, more personal responsibility and The Man (tm) generally getting off our back for a change. But this isn't why this bill was shot down. It wasn't even that the governor realized that he should probably not allow a bill sponsored by a nutcase to pass into law.
It was shot down because the governor feared the studios would stop labeling their games altogether if they could be held liable for what label they slap on the box. This wasn't a victory for free speech or at least a step in the right direction. What would a studio do to cover its back? Label everything M. Even "Barnie's 'I love you' singalong" because you might see someone hug and that could be seen as something sexual (eeek!) by another nutjob.
We're still in Utah, remember that!
Bottom line would have been that the whole self-imposed rating system would go out the window and parents couldn't tell a Teletubbies preschooler educational game from a blood dripping slaughterfest. And you can imagine what he'd get to hear then, right? Right?
This is no victory. Yes, we like the outcome, but that will only be temporary until Nutsy finds the time to reword it. And that he has far too much spare time should be known by now.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
given that Gov. Huntsman seems to be pretty level-headed.
'Impossible' is a word that humans use far too often. -- Seven of Nine
Wasn't he disbarred and ordered to STFU?
Or did that only apply to Florida?
GamePolitics asked a First Amendment rights expert for his opinion on the matter, and the National Coalition Against Censorship spoke out against the bill, urging Governor Jon Huntsman to strike it down. Fortunately, it appears he took their advice (or that of many lobbying retailers), as the bill has now been vetoed.
It wasn't all that. All they had to do was just sound the Horn of Urgency.
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It was shot down because the governor feared the studios would stop labeling their games altogether if they could be held liable for what label they slap on the box. This wasn't a victory for free speech or at least a step in the right direction.
Um... what exactly would victory have looked like? Other than Jack Thompson's public shaming, disbarment, or exile...
Labeling is speech. In some cases, it's compelled speech, in other cases it's more or less cooperative, but it's a solution that's pretty coherent with important principles behind the idea of free speech, such as information's valuae to a free to society and faith in a marketplace of ideas. Huntsman realized that turning the dial up on the compulsions associated with the ratings would (a) probably NOT be compatible with the legal framework of the country AND (b) would chill labeling speech.
Now, if you view labeling as hostile speech and onerous, that's another argument altogether, but it's more or less orthogonal to ideas of freedom of speech or artistic expression.
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