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Reliability of Computer Memory?

olddoc writes "In the days of 512MB systems, I remember reading about cosmic rays causing memory errors and how errors become more frequent with more RAM. Now, home PCs are stuffed with 6GB or 8GB and no one uses ECC memory in them. Recently I had consistent BSODs with Vista64 on a PC with 4GB; I tried memtest86 and it always failed within hours. Yet when I ran 64-bit Ubuntu at 100% load and using all memory, it ran fine for days. I have two questions: 1) Do people trust a memtest86 error to mean a bad memory module or motherboard or CPU? 2) When I check my email on my desktop 16GB PC next year, should I be running ECC memory?"

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  1. Re:The truth by itwerx · · Score: 0, Troll

    "think that Western Digital is going to be OK with near 100% failure of their drives in a RAID 5 array?"

    Given that WD's 5-year failure rate is ~20%, yes, they do appear to be okay with something like that.
    And when you compare that with Seagate's ~2% failure rate in the same period I suspect that such pwn3rz-ation of the marketplace has already happened.

  2. Re:Surprise? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 0, Troll

    No, Vista is not rock solid like Linux. Find me people who have booted Vista, and not shut it down for a year, THEN I'll begin to believe that Vista is solid. My Debian runs for weeks and months at a time, DESPITE the fact that electricity is interrupted frequently. (I live in backwoods nowhere, the power goes out with every little storm) Google around, and see how many people have had Linux up and running for YEARS. Microsoft can't touch that.

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  3. Re:Surprise? by CarpetShark · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yes. Vista is rock solid on solid hardware. Seriously. Vista is as reliable as Linux. Some people wreck their vista installation, some people wreck their Linux installation.

    Ever tried a Marvell NIC on a 64-bit vista system? It works fine, as long as you don't have more than 4GB installed. That's some 64-bit architecture there.

    Anyway, hardware crippled with DRM is not solid hardware.

  4. Re:Surprise? by TheJasper · · Score: 1, Troll

    That's because I wasn't trolling. Yes, I do know people here on slashdot don't like to hear positive opinions on Vista, but in fact Vista isn't all that bad.

    I use Linux exclusively on my desktop pc at home and at work. I've been using Linux for over a decade. When I bought a laptop a year and a half ago, it came with Vista. Vista is IMHO a great improvement over XP. It's not even slow on decent hardware.ÂI have yet to receive my first BSOD since SP1 was released. SP0 gave me a few BSODs, maybe 5 in total.

    That being said, I use Linux for work and Vista for play. So the comparison may not be entirely fair.

    Isn't having a positive opinion about anything windows the definition of a slashdot troll ;).

    Seriously though, my problems with Vista don't even get to the stability stage. There is the UI which basically sux. It makes me search for things which should've stayed in the same place. It is slow on decent hardware. The problem is I don't consider decent hardware to be something an IT'er would buy. I see decent hardware as being what a normal, non-gaming person would buy. It's slower than XP in any case and requires more memory.

    I still recommend Windows to regular people however. I won't be their linux helpdesk and windows simply is easier and better for regular people. Mostly this is psychological but that is a really big issue.

  5. Re:Surprise? by Computershack · · Score: 0, Troll
    So the problem is actually not Vista at all but shitly written NIC drivers.

    Let me guess. You're a stupid clueless cunt too thick to see that or you're blowing steam out your ass. What a surprise.

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  6. Re:Surprise? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1, Troll

    ""61 days, rebooting only for updates" still flies in the face of everybody that claims that Vista will crash on a weekly/daily/hourly basis."

    It doesn't fly in the face of shit. It shows that one of the few people who had an anecdote about Vista reliability calls a ridiculously inadequate length of up time proof that Vista is reliable. If what the OP says is true, he is the rare exception that got the best Vista has to offer. That "best" is woefully inadequate.

    BTW - You say his point is still valid. What point was that? Was it that in very rare (atypical) cases one can experience reliability from Vista that is only an order of magnitude worse than the typical Linux system? If so, I concede that you are correct, and his point is valid. In rare cases Vista sucks more by only one order of magnitude rather than the typical two+ orders ;-)

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  7. Re:Surprise? by jonbryce · · Score: 0, Troll

    The Vista operating system is very stable in my experience. The problems are related to getting software and hardware to work with it, installing network printers - much more difficult than XP, but fine once you know how to do it, and being annoyed by UAC prompts every five minutes.

  8. Re:Surprise? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1, Troll

    "I'm curious why you need your OS to be on non-stop for more than 60 days.

    Allow me to paraphrase your question: I'm still curious why you need an OS that doesn't have memory leaks and other issues that require you to regularly reboot and restart the degradation process ;-)

    The point isn't that while it is true that most people don't need years of uptime, Linux is stable enough that you can have it if you want, and Windows is not so your out of luck if you need the reliability.

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