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Mac Tax, Dell Tax, HP Tax

Harry writes "Microsoft's new Windows ad, with shopper Lauren buying a cheap 17-inch HP laptop instead of a $2,800 MacBook Pro, has unleashed the whole 'Are Macs Expensive?' debate again. I'm diving in with a pretty exhaustive comparison of the MacBook Pro against machines from Dell, HP, Lenovo, and Sony that were as comparably configured as I could manage. The conclusion: High-end laptops tend to carry high-end prices, whether their operating system hails from Cupertino or Redmond. And the MacBook Pro wasn't the priciest of the systems I compared." We looked at this question, not in as much depth, a couple of years back.

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  1. So in other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    you are trying to justify that Apple purchase and will try to seek out evidence to backup your purchase,
    nobody wants to feel they have been ripped off and will invent any amount of reasons to avoid facing the reality that you have indeed been ripped off which is very common trait with the victims of crime/fraud.

    witness the fanboys, large amount of customers that refuse to believe they got a poor deal and so band together for positive re-enforcement

  2. Re:First Posts are the most expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Does the word "nigger" offend you?

  3. I bought a Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    because it is well-known as THE "gay" computer. I'm hoping to use it convert young boys into the homosexual lifestyle. Can anyone recommend any software that would be effective at turning young boys gay?

  4. Gee . . . I Don't Know by LuYu · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Let's see . . .

    • Average Netbook running Linux: ~$300
    • MacBook: ~$3,000

    With early 90's pricing, why would anybody think MacBooks were expensive?

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  5. Re:mod parent up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    To me one of the the biggest issues with Mercedes is that they don't really offer a full range of vehicles. So if for instance somebody wants a pickup truck they are out of luck. Or a dirt bike. What they do make I think is competitive in those markets. But an expanded lineup would really help.

  6. Re:but how much for .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Ya know, idiots abound in this argument, obviously Mac OS X is not a big consideration for you, neither is reliability, nor support. If you only need a cheap laptop, you can get one and be done, quit complaining that the Cadillac costs too much and go drive your old beetle anywhere you want!

  7. Oh, STFU... by pinkfloydhomer · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Macs are expensive. They're not high-end. They're just expensive. My computers perform a lot better than any Mac and they are all cheaper than the cheapest Mac.

    Macs are expensive.

  8. Re:Upgrading by cepayne · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You get what you pay for.

    There are always trade off's when buying cheap Win laptops at
    big box stores.

    The cost benefit of Win based laptops is usually eaten up later
    on in the ownership of that laptop when you are paying someone
    to remove spyware and virii at $70-$100 per hour.

    Pay now, or pay later.

    It should be noted that the MB Pro's are not geared (marketed)
    at joe sixpack and his grandma. And Apple does not get
    worried or upset if you (joe sixpack) buys a Dell instead of
    a Mac. Their equipment sells itself to many who get the opportunity
    to try it out first. You may not be Apples target audience.

  9. !Tax by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    A tax is when the mafia, I mean the government, threatens to kidnap you and throw you in prison if you don't give them X amount of money. The surcharge one must pay for an Apple-branded, if any, is a branding/peace of mind/affinity surcharge, not a tax. You're voluntarily paying more a product that you believe, for concrete or abstract, sentimental reasons, is worth more than another product at a lower price that may be substantially similar. A tax is something that if you don't pay, the government threatens you with violence over. Apple item X being more than Other OEM Y is a pricing differential, one that the consumer voluntarily pays for. Or in my case, I voluntarily choose not to, and Jobs' Mob isn't threatening to throw me in prison for not buying Apple.

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  10. Re:Upgrading by arminw · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...Show me a Macbook that I can buy for just $400.....

    Show me a new BMW, Lexus or Mercedes Benz I can buy for under $19995.95! You can't? Oh, I see, those companies don't make a car for that price.

    Any computer, no matter what its price, is nothing more than a pile of metal, plastic and silicon designed to run software. In Apple's case, it is the software you do get, such as OSX and the iLife programs, as well as the software you do NOT get, such as trialware, spyware, adware pre-installed by the manufacturer, as well as the reservoir of tens of thousands of viruses, worms, Trojans and other malicious code. Any of Apple's computers can run programming from Redmond or open source. However, such a Mac will always be inferior in every way to the product that Apple delivers to their customers. Even a Hackintosh made by some other hardware manufacturer, or put together from the correct collection of spare parts, will be a better overall computer system running OSX, than it would have been with other software.

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