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Rackable Buying SGI Assets For $25M?

UnanimousCoward was one of many people to submit a story that might be an April Fools day joke, except that I don't think it is. Rackable Systems has announced that it is buying SGI for the bargain basement price of $25M. Time was that there was little cooler than an SGI workstation. And note to Rackable's PR: Either this was a genius joke, or a terrible day to announce huge news. Someone either deserves a promotion or a firing.

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  1. "little cooler than an SGI workstation..." by Assmasher · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Right up until you found out how bad Irix could be ;)...

    Very sexy hardware, terrible *nix implementation. I once had (sigh) an IR2 in my office for 6 months. I don't think I slept at home the entire time.

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    1. Re:"little cooler than an SGI workstation..." by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The only IRIX I ever installed was 5.3 on an Indigo R3000 that I got with the 17" trinitron and entry graphics for $500, and sold a few months later for the same price. The patch set was literally bigger than the OS. IIRC it took considerably longer to install, too.

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    2. Re:"little cooler than an SGI workstation..." by Assmasher · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Lol, I used to absolutely DREAD getting Irix updates from SGI. Every few months a batch of CDs with 5.x/6.x on them would show up and I'd be the poor bastard going through the Indys (we had one for testing purposes), O2s (testing), Octanes (work stations), and our IR2. Made NT4.0 look good, Irix did...

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    3. Re:"little cooler than an SGI workstation..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know quite what you were doing, but I think odds are You're Doing It Wrong.

      Whack the images onto a dist server and use inst's selections file format to specify the locations. Piece of cake.

      And installing IRIX (as complained about in a sibling post) consists of copying about 10 lines of source locations into your serial terminal emulator and something like:

        install *
        keep conflicting
        go

      It used to take me about five minutes from turning the machine on until IRIX was happily installing itself and I could go off for coffee whilst it completed.
       

    4. Re:"little cooler than an SGI workstation..." by sootman · · Score: 2, Interesting
      SGI had lots of problems. They were the height of coolness but they didn't take advantage of what they had when they had it. I think Apple learned a lot more from them than just how to transition CPUs. (They had done that once before, as it happens.) But speaking of Apple, a few days after SGI was delisted (the first time, back in 2005), I stumbled across an old (1994) article about SGI while I was poking around in one of my favorite places, the Wired archive. The article has this quote from SGI founder Jim Clark:

      Clark is not afraid to publicly dis a company like Apple, much as Steve Jobs once mocked IBM.

      "Apple," Jim Clark will sigh, as if he were talking about a horse on its way to the glue factory. "They're not doing anything... Apple blew it."

      Then, with a dismissive wave of his hand, and just the hint of a grin: "I think they're in serious trouble."

      Funny how things can change.

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  2. Surprised? by plasticsquirrel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's definitely not an April Fools joke. But does this really surprise anyone? They're just going the way of DEC and just about every other Unix vendor. The only ones that are still around and thriving are Sun, IBM, and HP. But those too are slowly dying the old Unix death, done in by Linux I suppose.

    When I was younger, I could have only dreamed of having one of these venerable Unix systems. But now that they're finally cheap and I can afford them, Linux now makes them seem very outdated and proprietary in nature. Kind of a sad thing to see old dreams die, but in this case I think it's also a step forward.

    It's always seemed like such a shame to see old well-designed machines built around Unix (rather than just generic PC's) become a thing of the past, though. Good quality hardware and a machine that looked and ran like it meant business, with fast disks and lots of RAM... :-)

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  3. $25M seems like a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember when Everex and Kodak (and Dell too?) all got out of the Unix/SVR4 business. Kodak got out by selling to Sun. I seem to recall that Everex sold off their Unix operation for a paltry $100K.

    I really wonder why Rackable is even bothering? Do they think the companies using SGI iron today will keep buying more stuff an SGI label on the front?

    1. Re:$25M seems like a lot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I didn't know that Kodak was in the Unix business.

      On a side note, I, for the life of me, can't figure out why Goodyear Tire has an OUI: 00-40-8D. Why would a tire company need its own MAC address range?

      Posting AC because I'm embarrassed about not knowing about Kodak.

    2. Re:$25M seems like a lot by erikscott · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Lost to the ages is a couple of Goodyear supercomputers, remembered really only as a footnote in computer architecture textbooks...

  4. Re:Head hurts parsing this sentence... by _Hellfire_ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Time was that there was little cooler than an SGI workstation."

    My head hurts trying to parse that sentence. Is there some grammatical rule that I don't fully understand or was that just a mistake in the summary?

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    The sentence is old-fashioned, but lexically correct. In plainer English it basically means "There was a time when an SGI workstation was really cool and there was little else that was cooler".

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  5. Re:It's real by robthebloke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    you sure they are picking up the dept though? They put SGI into Chapter 11 immediately after the deal was signed...

  6. Re:The decay of workstations. by robthebloke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There's also the Nvidia effect. All the old SGI engineers who worked on OpenGL and SGI hardware (Mark Kilgard etc al) all ended up working for Nvidia. Around the time of the geforce1, pretty much every single white paper and tech demo that came out of Nvidia was written by an ex-SGI employee. It was only going to be a matter of time before nvidia overtook SGI, and it's another reason why nvidia's openGL support has always been so strong.

  7. Re:The Natural Rise & Fall of Empires by mikael · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The question is why do empires fall? Usually because they run out of lands to conquer. Or they lose their strategic advantage in technology (transportation, resources).

    SGI was cool at the time, but their executive had a fatal flaw - they believed that the marketplace would always be willing to pay premium prices simply for the cool silver SGI badge on the monitor and desktop unit. Back then, anything that connected to a UNIX system would have a UNIX markup price; a UNIX RS232 or monitor cable would cost two or three times as much as a regular PC cable. Just to make sure no-one attempted to use a regular PC cable, an additional pair of pins would be used simply as a loop-back. Other vendors charged site licences by the maximum number of user accounts, the amount of memory, or the number of CPU's in the system.

    Even though their engineers could see that PC's were catching up to workstation standards of CPU performance, SGI's executive board refused to develop for the PC platform, as they feared that they would have one half of the company attempting to undercut the profit margins of the other half.

    By 1995, Microsoft had brought out Windows NT and other 3D vendors were providing professional graphics accelerator boards supporting texture mapping, SGI's engineers had left to form Nvidia. Then SGI sold all their graphics patents to Microsoft. SGI also bought out part of Cray in an effort to remain in the high-end visualisation market, but as PC clusters keep creeping upwards in performance that didn't work.

    If SGI had been willing to provide 3D graphics technology to every possible marketplace, they would have probably been able to retain control rather than Microsoft to dominate.

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  8. Re:It's real by mikael · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SGI bought out part of Cray, the supercomputing/interconnect part. Sun bought out the other part of Cray, the storage systems part. Even if a company is in debt and has no sales, the patent portfolio is worth something even if it is for counter-litigation purposes.

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  9. What is the point of SPARC these days. by tjstork · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You are so right.

    Like, right now, I have to ask myself, what exactly does a SPARC or even POWER do that an AMD64 cannot? I just don't know now, and the differences used to be much more clear cut.

    IT used to be floating point and registers that set the workstation cpu apart and both of those advantages are gone. Both AMD and Intel have made a lot of strides in floating point and then AMD64 added a lot of registers.

    x86 assembly went from torture to kinda fun. I don't lust after a POWER chip the way I used to want Alpha or SPARC.... with my dual Opteron I'm well, fairly satisfied.

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  10. Old friends by hwyhobo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It almost broke my heart when during the remodeling I finally decided to put my old Sun workstation out to pasture - literally, into the backyard, to be picked up by trash folks later. It looked at me with that big monitor, "is that what you do to your elders?". A few years back it was my first Pentium, all SCSIed up and nowhere to go. Then it was my first 386, with extra drives hanging on ribbons out of a half-opened case. Before that it was my XT, along with its sharp yellow Casper monitor. I couldn't bear even to look at it. We spent so much time together. The only thing that remains from those days is my VT220 terminal which I used to log in to work through a modem to work remotely.

    I never owned an SGI machine, but I knew people who worked there. SGI was in my back yard, so to speak. We were all so proud or "our" companies and "our" valley. There was no cooler place to live on the planet.

    I also remember when Computer Literacy Bookstore closed down. I remember looking into the empty space at North First St. I remember when Kim Vestal's "Get your buns out of bed!" did not ring out in the morning.

    Our friends leave us every day. Every time the world gets a little grayer. When it's all colorless, it may be time for us to go.

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  11. Re:It's real by ari_j · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You are likely incorrect. This is an asset purchase, and it appears that all debts and other liabilities of SGI are being retained in the surviving SGI corporation with no assets other than the $25M in cash. That's the reality, regardless of bankruptcy. Bankruptcy will just allow SGI to pay off its $500M or so in debts with $25M in cash.

  12. Re:It's real by virtual_mps · · Score: 2, Interesting

    SGI bought out part of Cray, the supercomputing/interconnect part. Sun bought out the other part of Cray, the storage systems part. Even if a company is in debt and has no sales, the patent portfolio is worth something even if it is for counter-litigation purposes.

    No, Sun bought the interconnect (it was eventually sold as the E10k series and made a ton of money outside the supercomputing space). SGI bought the nameplate, the legacy systems (you could buy a Cray T3E or SV1 from SGI and it would come with a Sun workstation to boot it up), and entry into a shrinking market. SGI never made any money on their purchase and ended up selling it for a loss. This kind of brain dead management is why SGI is in the trouble it is in.

    SGI's storage systems came from its StorageTek acquisition. (And, before that, it had its own SunStorage hardware. Best to forget about that.)