Watching the IPRED Watchers In Sweden

digithed writes "In response to Sweden's recent introduction of new laws (discussed here recently) implementing the European IPRED directive, a new Swedish Web site has been launched allowing users to check if their IP address is currently under investigation. The site also allows users to subscribe for email updates alerting them if their IP address comes under investigation in the future, or to report IP addresses known to be under investigation. This interesting use of people power 'watching the watchers' is possible because the new Swedish laws implementing the IPRED directive require a public request to the courts in order to get ISPs to forcibly disclose potentially sensitive private information. Since all court records are public in Sweden, it will be easy to compile a list of addresses currently being investigated."

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Swedish does not derive from Latin

[BadAnalogyGuy]

It's a shame that the Swedish language doesn't derive from Latin. The Sapir-Worf hypothesis states that you can only conceptualize those things that your language supports.

Since Swedish doesn't have the concept of habeas corpus, they find themselves in this kind of circular "watching the watchers" predicament. When the government has no responsibility to provide proof of anything to simply go ahead with investigation, the citizens are forced to take measures like this wherein they must determine on their own whether they are under investigation.

Sad state of affairs over there in Sweden, it pains me to say.

Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin

[Quothz]

Since Swedish doesn't have the concept of habeas corpus, they find themselves in this kind of circular "watching the watchers" predicament.

*sniff* That's a beautifully constructed troll, sir. The obvious response, of course, is that habeas corpus has nothing whatsoever to do with initiating investigations. At all. In any way.

The only reasonable conclusion, of course, is that your native tongue is Chewa, which of course has no phrase for "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but I could sure use another drink".

Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin

[nacturation]

Thats a terrible analogy.

I think you meant to say that it was a bad analogy, considering the username you replied to.

Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin

[Anonymous Coward]

My left nut carries a much higher cost. Just sayin'.

Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin

[fbjon]

You're all nuts anyway...

Re:Swedish does not derive from Latin

[carpe_noctem]

I am a native English speaker and I did not hear of habeas corpus until recently.

Dubya, is that you?

127.0.0.1

[Anonymous Coward]

"127.0.0.1 has not been reported as beeing investigated."

How long until the government finds a loophole allowing them to investigate 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1, or maybe even one of the 224.0.0.0/4 addresses? They could simultaneously investigate everyone with a single incriminating IP address!

Reminds me of this quote: http://www.bash.org/?742386

Re:127.0.0.1

[houghi]

I don't care about the 127.0.0.1. It will be a problem when they want to investigate hackme.houghi.org

Re:Government accountability

[cbiltcliffe]

Until the government raids and confiscates the servers that the site is hosted on....

Oh, wait..... this isn't Phoenix....

Come on everybody,

[palegray.net]

it's the proxy dance!

You can share if you want to
You can leave those Swedes behind
Cause your cops don't share
And if they don't share
Then they're no friends of mine.

Re:Parallel with e-cigarette case

[exley]

Yep, e-cigarettes. I don't understand the name. Can your cigarette surf the web? Can you print out nicotine using your inkjet printer? I didn't think so.

What you're looking for is the iCigarette -- it lets you do all the stuff you mentioned. Just like anyone else, really, but never has lung cancer looked so trendy.

Re:Non static ip

[gandhi_2]

with the use of a PCI, USB, or PC/PCMCIA card and a driver, a daemon could also trigger something like the ANM-14 thermite grenade. the subsequent (and warning-less) fire would destroy all evidence, as well as your eyesight. a blind guy getting sued for movie piracy? ha!

Re:Parallel with e-cigarette case

[gandhi_2]

No no. That's Cigarette 2.0. It runs on jSmoke. Although the Tobacco in Tubes implementation looks promising.