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Watching the IPRED Watchers In Sweden
digithed writes "In response to Sweden's recent introduction of new laws (discussed here recently) implementing the European IPRED directive, a new Swedish Web site has been launched allowing users to check if their IP address is currently under investigation. The site also allows users to subscribe for email updates alerting them if their IP address comes under investigation in the future, or to report IP addresses known to be under investigation. This interesting use of people power 'watching the watchers' is possible because the new Swedish laws implementing the IPRED directive require a public request to the courts in order to get ISPs to forcibly disclose potentially sensitive private information. Since all court records are public in Sweden, it will be easy to compile a list of addresses currently being investigated."
Its a beautiful thing.
The Sapir-Worf hypothesis
1) It's Sapir-Whorf - watch less star trek.
2) That hypothesis does not work like you think it does.
3) You don't understand Swedish laws, or the concept of habeas corpus.
4) ????
5) Oh, and fuck you.
English is also not derived from Latin (although it does borrow a large amount of words from Latin.) Swedish and English actually come from the same language family (Germanic) and share a large number of words (whether they share more than English shares with Latin is something that I don't know.) By the hypothesis you mentioned, the concept of habeus corpus is not something that English speakers should be able to conceptualize either.
Oh, now "fuck you" is insightful?
Fuck you.
...the concept of habeus corpus is not something that English speakers should be able to conceptualize either.
Yes, we did lose that ability just a few short years ago.
What?
And when they make it illegal to use VPNs and start enforcing it ?
The fuss is about that you shouldn't have to use proxies in order not to be monitored by a corporation playing cops.
Oh, I can't help quoting you because everything that you said rings true
Well, personally I'd mod this whole thread funny. However, the AC has a point. Your post appears to belittle an entire group of people. Whether or not that was your intended goal doesn't really matter. I shouldn't be surprised if you get a "fuck you" here and there for it though.
By saying that Swedish doesn't have a concept of Habeus Corpus--the liberty to not be detained unlawfully--is insulting, I would think.
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis doesn't mean you can't think outside of your language, but the translation may be rough. For example, if someone literally translated Habeus Corpus to english without understanding its meaning, you get "You have the body". "Of course I have my body! Are you on crack?", someone who understands both languages and cultures would translate the concept, and not just the words.