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Design Software Giants Target the Unemployed

avishere writes "People are losing their jobs, but for some execs the economic meltdown seems like the perfect time to get their software into the hands of those who can't afford their multi-thousand-dollar price tags. Software giants Autodesk and SolidWorks have each latched onto the worst-economic-disaster-since-the-Great-Depression meme and released free versions of their flagship computer-aided-design brands before their potential users are forced to sell their laptops on Craigslist. 'In these uncertain economic times,' Autodesk coos sympathetically, it will give away temporary licenses of AutoCAD and other software to those unemployed in the fields of architecture, engineering, and design. (They are also developing a Mac version, two decades after abandoning the platform.) SolidWorks was quick to respond with its subtly titled Engineering Stimulus Package. So if anyone out there has their weekdays free, jumpstart your hardware and design projects for cheap. Legally, too."

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  1. how about that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's actually cost effective to freely distribute your software to people who want to learn it.

    It's like someone figured out that someone will eventually pay for a license for software you are good at using.

    1. Re:how about that by palegray.net · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I still disagree with the time limits on the licenses. It's okay to watermark the creative output if someone hasn't purchased the product, but what in the hell is the point of stopping someone from using a "learning edition" product just because 90 days have passed?

    2. Re:how about that by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's actually cost effective to freely distribute your software to people who want to learn it.

      It's like someone figured out that someone will eventually pay for a license for software you are good at using.

      That may well be, but here I am with an Ubuntu machine and I'm willing to pay for another full Solidworks license if they will release for this platform. They _could_ be making money off me, but they'd rather give the software away for free then let me pay them for a Linux port. Luckily, SW 2006 runs fine in Virtual Box, and I can open it's window alone, without having the whole XP desktop visible.

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    3. Re:how about that by th1nk · · Score: 5, Informative

      Autodesk have been thought to do this for years already on the warez scene.

      Autodesk are thought to have released their own cracks...

      I don't know the validity of your statement, but I do know that they are quick to send their lawyers out if they think you are profiting with a pirated copy of their software.

      I set up a website about 7 years ago when I was working for myself as a mechanical design engineer. The website showed some examples of my work created in AutoCAD, among other software packages. A few months after it went live I received a very threatening certified letter from a group of lawyers representing AutoCAD saying that they had no record of my company purchasing a license for AutoCAD. At that time I did not own a legitimate copy of AutoCAD. I wrote a letter back stating that the examples were created using a legitimate copy, that I was not currently using AutoCAD and that I would remove any references to it on my website if they wished. They then said that was cool and never pursued it again.

  2. Four words I am damn sick of hearing in sequence by Tetsujin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "These uncertain economic times"

    I'm tired of hearing it. It's like the PR tool's qualifier for everything.

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  3. Adobe has a similar program for developers by md17 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Adobe recently announced a similar program but for software developers:
    http://www.jamesward.com/blog/2009/04/03/free-flex-builder-for-unemployed-developers/

    -James (Adobe)

    1. Re:Adobe has a similar program for developers by Tetsujin · · Score: 4, Funny

      YA, we offer FREE FLEX for all the WUSSY LITTLE GIRLY MEN!

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    2. Re:Adobe has a similar program for developers by Ihmhi · · Score: 3, Funny

      Adobe is going to PUMP *clap* YOU UP!

  4. I looked... by Chabo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was hoping that they were just giving away short-term licenses to anyone, but apparently if you sign up for the program, you have to be verifiably unemployed. I wonder what method they use to check...

    (hmm... Firefox says that "verifiably" isn't a word, but I looked it up, turns out it's a valid adverb form of "verifiable")

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    1. Re:I looked... by physicsphairy · · Score: 2, Funny

      I put down CowboyNeal. I hope if he gets a call he'll confirm that I don't work for him.

  5. Smart Move by Pearson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This actually makes sense. The most important thing for a software company to be successful is to have people who know how to use their software. Which is why student prices and Learning Editions exist. And there have been reports that some laid off workers are starting their own companies, so getting your software into the hands of those people would be a smart move, too.

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    1. Re:Smart Move by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This actually makes sense. The most important thing for a software company to be successful is to have people who know how to use their software. Which is why student prices and Learning Editions exist. And there have been reports that some laid off workers are starting their own companies, so getting your software into the hands of those people would be a smart move, too.

      My local Solidworks distributor is a moron in this regard. He insists that students pay $400 for a license. And the company won't sell to me directly. I don't think that SW even has our local language support, so I will probably buy the $99 student version from a foreign vendor.

      I should also mention that when I went to my faculty's computer help desk to ask about a student version, they gave me two options:
      1) Pool with 9 other students who would be willing to share a license (I have no idea how this would work).
      2) Pirate it. The student assistant was even willing to give me the disk.

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  6. Re:Four words I am damn sick of hearing in sequenc by Chabo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No kidding.

    Maybe if people stopped calling these "economic times" "uncertain", then they'd stabilize!

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  7. Bravo! by N!NJA · · Score: 2, Insightful

    nothing like an economic meltdown to make Co's recognize the value of their most important asset: their current and potential customers.

  8. Re:Four words I am damn sick of hearing in sequenc by JanneM · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe if people stopped calling these "economic times" "uncertain", then they'd stabilize!

    And maybe if they stopped calling these times "economic" all money would disappear!

    Sorry.

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  9. Re:And for software engineers? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Visual Studio Express is free (as in beer) by design. Of course, it is a Microsoft product, so you have to be willing to contaminate your workstation with binaries from the Evul Kingdom.

    And a 240 day license of the various MS server products is free as well.

  10. What this really means by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Read this sort of thing along the lines of: "Since you're now low on dough and high on time, we're giving you our stuff for free so you dare not move to open source in general and Blender in specific to refocus your skills there, because that little Project is closing in on us in leaps and bounds and frankly is scaring the living piss out of us."

    I sold my Lightwave 8.5 Licence (+ books 'n stuff) and forfeighted the right for cheap upgrades of this very neat Hollywood Grade 3D Kit because Blender has gotten so good, there are only very few features missing that LW has, and quite a few that LW (or any other closed source kit) doesn't have. Oh, and btw., Blender 2.5 is coming closer with a complete architectural redo that will boost its developement even further. The 3D market is tough as it is and Blender is a scaring thing to watch for SideFX, AutoDesk, NewTek and the likes, you can believe that. The 3D tool market allways was tough, but these days its even more so - wouldn't wanna swap with any of those companies still asking upwards of 3000 Euros for their software.

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    1. Re:What this really means by igloonaut · · Score: 5, Funny

      [My english is better than most other people's german, so please point out mistakes politely. Thank you.]

      Good afternoon! I believe German should be capitalized if you please.

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    2. Re:What this really means by mephistophyles · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That may be true for the architectural design side of things, but isn't really true for floorplans and is certainly far from true for the SolidWorks part of the story. SolidWorks is still the platform of choice in almost every Mechanical Engineering project I've gotten a glimpse of.

      The thing however, and this applies to AutoCAD too in this case, these products are 3D CAD, not graphics software. The mindset to work in one is different to working in the other

    3. Re:What this really means by dotancohen · · Score: 4, Funny

      "You" should not be capitalized except at the normal places for any word.

      Apparently the AC is a capitalist.

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    4. Re:What this really means by adamchou · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think this is incorrectly interpreting the motive of these companies. Its not because of fear of blender. If it was, they would give it away regardless of the economic situation. This is much more about marketing their product to people that are in a dire economic situation. Once they attain these loyal customers now, they'll continue to be loyal when the economy returns. Besides, there is some evidence that during the great depression, it was the companies that continued to aggressively promote their brand and advertise that ultimately succeeded.

  11. Adobe by future+assassin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thats why Adobe is so popular. Piracy does build huge user bases and when the younger user base grows up they are already hooked on your brand and will buy a license eventually. Now I'm not saying that everyone will buy a license by quite a few will.

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    1. Re:Adobe by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well... Those "pirates" (ARRR) chose to download and use specifically Adobe product for a reason. When everything is free, you take everything, and keep only what you like.

      If only others would realize the marketing potential of file-sharing networks.

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    2. Re:Adobe by petermgreen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course marketing through pirate software only helps if you can get the people to pay eventually.

      Thats why theese companies tolerate piracy by individuals who aren't yet making any money out of them but form organisations like the BSA to scare companies out of running pirate software.

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  12. Re:Four words I am damn sick of hearing in sequenc by Chyeld · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You may have been marked as funny, but you do deserve a bit of insightful for that.

    Perhaps not all of it, but a portion of the 'uncertainty' is due to the fact that everyone is certain that we are in 'uncertain' times. If we stopped pushing that down folks throats, then there might be less panic to keep things stired up.

  13. Re:Glad to hear it by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm impressed. Sounds like an easy hand out to potential customers. Smart, and effective I bet.

    Not all Solidworks' customers want a hand out. I actually want to pay them for a full license for an Ubuntu port. But they'd rather hand them out to Windows users for free than take my money.

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  14. Re:May I just say... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, AutoCAD was the classic example of companies that "just don't get it" when it comes to the Mac.

    AutoCAD for the Mac was released back in 1988, I believe. But what they did was port their DOS-based product to the Mac. It didn't work or look like a Mac product (no menubar, windows, or anything like that), it worked and looked just like the DOS product. The company said that they planned to release this version first and then make a "more Mac-like" one later on based upon how well this one sold.

    Of course, nobody bought it. If you were already doing CAD work on the Mac using one of AutoCAD's competitors, you certainly weren't going to give it up. If you didn't have any Macs, why would you buy the Mac version when it didn't give you anything you couldn't do with the DOS version? Even better, AutoCAD announced their plan to create a "more Mac-like" version. So most Mac users said, "Cool. We'll wait for that one, thank you."

    A few years later, AutoCAD for Mac was dropped because there "just wasn't a big enough market for CAD on the Mac." The reality, though, was that there wasn't a big enough market for DOS ports to the Mac. Mac users expected a Mac interface.

  15. Re:Four words I am damn sick of hearing in sequenc by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We know how often people typically default. We know how often they typically default during recessions. The only real unknown here is how many of those loans were given to people without documentation. How many of those loans were rated AAA when in reality there was no chance they would be repaid. If those questions are answered, we can return stability to the financial sector. Although it will probably be a stability at a point much lower than some people would like.

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  16. Re:Four words I am damn sick of hearing in sequenc by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We know how often people typically default. We know how often they typically default during recessions. The only real unknown here is how many of those loans were given to people without verification of what they could pay. How many of those loans were rated AAA when in reality there was no chance of being repaid. If those questions are answered, we can return stability to the financial sector. Although it will probably be a stability at a point much lower than some people would like.

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  17. Re:May I just say... by jcr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reality, though, was that there wasn't a big enough market for DOS ports to the Mac.

    That's for sure.

    Mac users expected a Mac interface.

    That's mostly true, but the key is that Mac users demand a good UI. If you look at something like Maya, that breaks a lot of Mac UI principles but it's not a complete train wreck like Autocad always was.

    -jcr

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  18. Re:May I just say... by JakartaDean · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, AutoCAD was the classic example of companies that "just don't get it" when it comes to the Mac.

    AutoCAD for the Mac was released back in 1988, I believe. But what they did was port their DOS-based product to the Mac. It didn't work or look like a Mac product (no menubar, windows, or anything like that), it worked and looked just like the DOS product. The company said that they planned to release this version first and then make a "more Mac-like" one later on based upon how well this one sold.

    Of course, nobody bought it. If you were already doing CAD work on the Mac using one of AutoCAD's competitors, you certainly weren't going to give it up. If you didn't have any Macs, why would you buy the Mac version when it didn't give you anything you couldn't do with the DOS version? Even better, AutoCAD announced their plan to create a "more Mac-like" version. So most Mac users said, "Cool. We'll wait for that one, thank you."

    A few years later, AutoCAD for Mac was dropped because there "just wasn't a big enough market for CAD on the Mac." The reality, though, was that there wasn't a big enough market for DOS ports to the Mac. Mac users expected a Mac interface.

    I was working in sales and technical support for a CAD/CAM vendor in when Autodesk released Autocad for the Mac, and we took it for a test drive, even signed up to be a Mac dealer.

    While you're right that Autocad on the Mac wasn't "Mac enough," that wasn't the main problem -- speed was. Autocad on DOS came with a bunch of "close to the metal" drivers for graphics cards and other resources, and these were, by 1988, written mostly by the hardware manufacturers to a well-defined API. They couldn't do this on the Mac, and as a result the software took 2-4 times as long to do anything on the Mac. CAD systems, at least in those days, weren't used part-time, they were expensive tools for full-time designers (more likely draftspeople). So, the market for Autocad on the Mac ended up being people who would put up with terrible performance for interface compatibility with other applications they were seldom likely to use. Not a huge market.

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