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Microsoft Ending Mainstream Support For XP

Slatterz writes "Come next week, Microsoft will be in the unusual position of no longer offering mainstream support for its most widely used product. Windows XP will pass another milestone next week on the road to retirement when mainstream support ends on 14 April 2009, over seven years after the OS originally shipped. While the company said that it will continue to provide free security fixes for XP until 2014, any future bugs found in the platform will not be fixed unless customers pay. Windows XP accounts for about 63 percent of all Internet-connected computers, according to March 2009 statistics from Hitslink, while Windows Vista makes up about 24 percent."

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  1. ok.. so where is it? by way2trivial · · Score: 5, Funny

    I went to microsoft.com and looked around- I did not find the "donate now" button anywhere

    how exactly are we supposed to pay?

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    1. Re:ok.. so where is it? by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Funny

      how exactly are we supposed to pay?

      I'm not sure how the whole process works but I'm guessing that it involves bending over at some point.....

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    2. Re:ok.. so where is it? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn. I knew using Open Office would backfire on me one day.

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    3. Re:ok.. so where is it? by petermgreen · · Score: 5, Interesting

      how exactly are we supposed to pay?
      Through the nose ;)

      Seriously you buy a volume license and then buy the extended hotfix agreement through your volume license account. You also have to pay for the individual fixes on top of that. MS don't seem to show prices on thier website but I doubt it is cheap.

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  2. Why not open it up by RemoWilliams84 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wish more companies would start opening up their software once it has run out of life. If Microsoft really thought that XP was no longer going to be good enough for pc's, open it up to the community and let people learn from it and tinker with it.

    Oh... wait, it is Microsoft.

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    1. Re:Why not open it up by plague3106 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Because while Vista may have changed quite a bit, I'm sure there's still a lot of XP code in there.

    2. Re:Why not open it up by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yep, RHEL is 7 years total with 4 years general support and 3 years of extended support, SUSE is 5 years general and 2 years extended.

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    3. Re:Why not open it up by QuincyDurant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, the policy is not unreasonable in general. However, XP is the OS that works, and they have nothing that is better to replace it. And doesn't it take less money to support a solid, familiar OS than it does to support a new, flaky one?

      I don't get it. Isn't XP a cash cow?

      Does this mean MSFT engineers will no longer "talk users through" the downgrade process.

      http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9040318

    4. Re:Why not open it up by mmkkbb · · Score: 5, Informative

      I remember something about headers for the kernel being no longer available, but I just logged into my Apple Developer account and was able to download all the publically available source for the kernel for OS X 10.5.6 just fine: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.6/

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  3. Re:XP Sucks, Vista is Better by noundi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because people are generally not satisfied with Vista. The parent is right, Vista is the current Windows version whether you like it or not and since you don't like it retailers keep selling PCs with XP installed. The important thing here is that while Microsoft has an agenda for future revenue, retailers on the other hand are on their own. Profit for them is profit, no matter the product, but for Microsoft it's a step back if it's XP. The majority of revenue generated through XP has already been collected, thus Microsoft needs a new platform to sell to all of it's customer base. This is how business works.

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  4. Re:Few companies work as hard to make bad decision by Nursie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Vista is slow to boot.
    Vista helpfully stops me running programs I want to run at startup.
    Vista takes absolutely hours to update itself.
    Vista is always telling me no, I don't have permission to do that, or to look there.
    Vista is generally annoying.

    Vista also has a couple of more geeky irritations to me as a software engineer and a linux user. But still, it runs my games OK and that's all I ask of it these days. I don't hate it, I just don't think it's that good.

    That said, you should here the vitriol and emotional reactions that come out of my none-geek family and friends. This vista hatred may have started here with us, but it's been taken to a whole new level by the general computer-using-but-not-understanding public. I don't know if that's a reflection of them buying all the media hype or if it's a genuinbe reaction to the product, but it seems that it's no longer us penguin-loving kernel botherers that are the main source of the anti-MS vitriol.

  5. Re:Wow I'm First by Penguin+Follower · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is crazy... I mean here at my workplace (a hospital) we just rolled out Windows XP this past September. We dumped Win2k & Novell Netware for XP and Active Directory. We won't be upgrading for a long time yet.

  6. Only ONE good year of Windows XP by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As you know, it's worse than you say.

    The Slashdot story is excessively pro-Microsoft, in my opinion. Quoting the Slashdot story: "... over seven years after the OS originally shipped..." That gives a much more positive impression than is warranted, in my opinion.

    Windows XP had very serious problems until the release of Service Pack 2. So Windows XP release version is only 4 1/2 years old.

    Service Pack 3 fixed many, many, many bugs that Microsoft itself called "critical". So the final, fully usable version of Windows XP has been available less than a year. A year of good use is not much in return for 6 years of numerous cases of grief and hassles and huge maintenance expense.

    Vista was an attempt to get people to abandon Windows XP. Vista was first released about two years ago.

    So, one version of the Windows product, Windows XP, was not fully finished until more than a year after the next version, Windows Vista, was first sold, although Windows Vista was so unfinished that it was rejected in the marketplace.

    When the version of Windows called Windows 7 is released, many people will be buying their third version of the Windows OS in only two years, even though one of the versions, Vista, was never finished.

    That's product churning.

    Sooner or later the average buyer will realize that they don't need Microsoft's pushy "upgrades", which all must use much more CPU power, because Microsoft's real customers, the big computer hardware manufacturers, want everyone to buy new hardware. Microsoft is trying to continue creating an artificial market, and the average buyer is becoming more aware of that.

    1. Re:Only ONE good year of Windows XP by Ex-Linux-Fanboy · · Score: 5, Informative

      And Microsoft thinks it is OK to discontinue support?

      Microsoft is still providing support; security updates will be available until sometime in 2014. There is right now one, and only one Linux distribution available today guaranteed to still be supported in 2014: Red Hat Enterprise Linux (and its knock-offs like CentOS)

      The things Microsoft is not support is updates Microsoft has been giving XP over the years like giving XP Clear type support, support for WPA2 networks, support for SDHC cards, etc.

      New drivers will continue to be available for Microsoft Windows XP for the foreseeable future, it's up to hardware makers to decide when to stop supporting XP.

      This, should I point out, is better than the situation with RHEL 5 where new hardware doesn't work since the Linux driver model isn't stable; I tried to install CentOS 5 last week and gave up when I couldn't get drivers for my touchpad (Windows XP, of course, has drivers) nor current stable drivers for my WiFi card (supposedly there are drivers, but the last time I was able to use WiFi with my laptop in CentOS 5, the driver would crash unless I pinged the router every second).