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New ICANN TLDs May Cause Internet Land Rush
wiryd writes "A new ICANN proposal would allow applications for almost any TLD. From the article: 'Tourists might find information about the Liberty Bell, for example, at a site ending in .philly. A rapper might apply for a Web address ending in .hiphop. "Whatever is open to the imagination can be applied for," says Paul Levins, ICANN's vice president of corporate affairs. "It could translate into one of the largest marketing and branding opportunities in history."'"
"Tourists probably won't find information about the Liberty Bell at a site ending in .philly just like they don't, for example, find anything useful at sites ending in .info."
If you see a company snap up a new TLD at the recommendation of their marketing department, it's time to sell their stock. Unless somebody comes up with a novel technical use for an entire TLD, this is going to be a massive flop.
My dad still gets confused when an address ends in something besides, ".com".
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Tourists might find information about the Liberty Bell, for example, at a site ending in .philly.
Or maybe .pa or maybe even .penn or maybe even .hist or maybe even .bells or maybe even .revwar? Or maybe tourists will have to check all of those since they're all valid categories? And maybe the site www.ushistory.org/libertybell/ will have to register in all of those categories?
A rapper might apply for a Web address ending in .hiphop.
Or maybe .music or maybe .ryhme or maybe .lyric or maybe .album or maybe .songs or maybe .r for "Rapper" or maybe .rap? Or maybe I want to target fans of said rapper and register his name dot whatever on one of those and post it all over message boards. On the site would be a link saying "click here for the latest album free!" where they enter their address and name? Then I Google bomb said rappers name on forums and boards with my site so that it shows up as number one in Google. If I get sued for it, just give it up and dream up another TLD that could dupe a fan. Let's not even get started on my vast collection of www.google.cmo, www.google.ocm, www.google.moc, etc.
... what exactly is the point of this again? An ICANN get rich quick scam?
I'm just going to throw out the idea that TLDs were never intended to be a complete ontology of all things. And you're making a whole lot of problems (security and logistical) for people so that you can make clever domain names. Is this really necessary?
The article makes them sound ridiculously expensive
My work here is dung.
What a business it is. And you never really can "own" a domain, you simply lease it. Miss a payment and a squatter owns your traffic.
The biggest cash grab ever.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
ICANN is now going to allow people to purchase their own gTLDs (for a price, of course). And when you own the TLD, you are the one who gets to set the rules for registration of domains underneath said TLD. As if WHOIS records aren't already bad enough; now companies can buy up their own TLDs and set their own rules for contact information for customers who purchase domains under said TLD.
.net, .org, and a few others). If they sell a domain like ".pillz" to your favorite spammer, he can setup an unlimited number of second level domains under that for his spamming enterprise, and will have no obligation to have any contact information (valid or not) for those domains. From which will rise the eternally-registered spamvertising domains, over which nobody will have jurisdiction because there will be no record of where the owner (or his business) resides.
Currently, if you receive a spam email selling you (insert favorite spamming product here), you can look up the domain name that is being spamvertised, and generally figure out who is responsible for the operation. With that information you can contact the registrar and the hosting company regarding the activity that is going on. And currently, if the registrar does not react accordingly, you have some (though very limited) choice of action through ICANN if the registrar is blatantly in violation of their obligations to maintain accurate records.
However, ICANN's obligations end with the most common TLDs (.com,
This will open the floodgates in a way we have not seen before. I discussed this a while ago when they first brought up this horrendous idea. But they will keep with it, because it will make some fast money. The rest of us can all go to hell with our email.
Forget the land rush. This will cause a spam rush that could potentially make sub-prime mortgages look like a good idea.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
One of the biggest reasons to have a specific domain name is because it's memorable enough and relevant enough so people will use it in lieu of a search engine.
(EG. If I don't know the URL for McDonalds restaurants, am I going to Google for it, or would I just try www.mcdonalds.com first?)
When you make the TLD an "anything goes" deal, vs. a distinct few possibilities - you make it MUCH harder for people to find you that way. (Initially, people will keep trying .com, knowing that's the "standard" ... and as time goes on, all the people registering random, new TLDs will cause those .com based searches to be increasingly worthless. They'll go back to doing searches for you, vs. taking random stabs as to what TLD you might be under.)
Perhaps it's time we revolt and set up a new Internet with a non-commerical clause so we can get back to using the Internet for what it was intended for, making us smarter rather then selling us shit...
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Anybody who says "It could translate into one of the largest marketing and branding opportunities in history." as though it is a good thing needs to have their face introduced to the cluebat. Followed by the truthbat and the justicebat. Then the cluebat again, just to be safe.
I ahve said for a long time now, the best PR move the porn industry could do was all use an .xxx domain.
People who want it, can find it, people who want to block it can do so easier.
It won'[t stop teens from getting to it, but it will be the next important step into mainstream acceptance a a legitimate business.
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[...] Everybody can now claim google.philly or google.hiphop and companies can do nothing about it(or start countless lawsuits). [...]
In order to avoid a massive influx of lawsuits from corporate lawyers all over the globe any half sane TLD operator would run a sunrise period for tradename owners to grab any domains their claims cover. But that in itself will defeat the whole purpose of introducing new TLDs. Google, Coca Cola, BMW et al. will simply grab their domains under any TLD they can get and sue the living sh... out of anyone who beats them to those domains. Well, just as they have done with domains under existing TLDs.
Totally pointless, really.
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The subject is not part of your damn post. It's really annoying to try to read. Please, stop. It's not clever, it's not cute, it's not informative. You don't type an email like that, why in the hell would you do it here?
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Spammers deal with a lot more money than that.
Yes, they do. But that $185,000 is per gTLD. Why would they spend $185k per domain when the current system works just fine at literally thousandths of that price? They are out to make money, not piss it down ICANN's drain. Furthermore, having their own gTLD makes them more easily targeted and controlled. If a spammer registers .spam and it gets spamvertised, how long do you really think it would be before .spam is listed as a whole on every major URIBL?
Second, I was referring to the spamvertised domain, not the domain that the email came from. The money is in the domain being spamvertised, not the domain that is relaying the mail.
Spammers using their own gTLDs will have a much larger problem with URIBLs. The way spammers get around a URIBL listing is by simply using throwaway domains. If your entire top-level domain just got URIBL'd, you'll seriously reconsider dropping another $185k on a new one.
I'm not sure I understand, but wouldn't it be great if spammers all started using .pillz or .softwarez domains? Then I could just block everything coming from those domains regardless of what their whois information says.
Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to be so lucky as to see spammers all put themselves under a unique TLD. But if they did, it'd probably be worth it for us all to start a collection and buy it for them.