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Dell Adamo Review — Macho Outside, Sissy Inside

Odelia Lee writes with a full review of Dell's new Adamo slimtop over at Gizmodo. While it may have an sleek exterior there are definite gaps (both literal and figurative) in their engineering. "The Adamo is both a compliment and an insult to Dell engineering. It's possibly the most beautiful computer Dell has ever manufactured, but I'm not sure that Dell has caught up to competitors in either aesthetics or power. There have been lots of qualitative Adamo reviews out there, but we got the first of the units that will actually ship to customers, so it's time for real benchmarks. As it happens, performance is really what's at stake here."

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  1. Hey Mike... by seanadams.com · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why don't you just wind it down and give the money back to your shareholders? Or stick to servers.

    1. Re:Hey Mike... by QuantumRiff · · Score: 5, Informative

      The parent was referring to when Mr. Dell said that that's what he would do if he was in charge of Apple a few years ago. Since then, they have skyrocketed...

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  2. Article summary nails it by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the article summary nails it.

    The Adamo is a bit of a strange beast. It's not as feathery as the Lenovo X301 or the MacBook Air, and even with that extra pound of heft, it's (overall) not as powerful as the MacBook Airâ"a computer that's incidentally cheaper than the Adamo in its base configuration.

    Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?

    It's nice looking, but it sounds like an Air is a much better all around computer. The only thing in it's favor is the higher max RAM (Apple will probably change that) and the integrated 3G option (I'd expect Apple to change that too). Gizmodo is also right that nVidia's next chipset for netbooks will outperform this, at 1/5th the price. It has eSata too though, which is a plus.

    Nice try Dell. It is certainly very nice visually. But you need some substance to go with that, or at least a cheaper price point.

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    1. Re:Article summary nails it by nsayer · · Score: 2, Informative

      The only thing in it's favor is the higher max RAM (Apple will probably change that) and the integrated 3G option (I'd expect Apple to change that too).

      Why?

      I can almost see a case being made for 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 (for folks to run a VM with Windows, perhaps), but if you want higher performing graphics, you're going to see either an increase in weight or a decrease in battery life, neither of which is acceptable in that form factor product.

      I suspect that Dell didn't get the memo, which is why theirs is heavier and louder.

    2. Re:Article summary nails it by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?

      And despite this, the anti-Mac fanatics will continue to claim that a Mac is always more expensive than a PC with comparable specs.

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    3. Re:Article summary nails it by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?

      It's not a notebook for you and me, who want the best bang for the buck. It's aimed at mid-to-upper level managers and sales staff, who need something that feels sturdy and looks classy, yet is capable of non-intensive tasks like displaying powerpoint presentations, send an e-mail saying you'll be late for tee-off, and watch pr0n^Wlight entertainment from the hotel room.

      How it performs is irrelevant -- the intended user group wouldn't be able to take advantage of the performance anyhow.

      I predict it's going to sell well to its target group -- especially in the numerous companies where Dell is one of a few approved manufacturers to choose from, and an Apple wouldn't be paid for by the company even if it danced the jitterbug and wiped your arse.

    4. Re:Article summary nails it by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?

      But, but, but... this can't be true! Lord Ballmer informed us that Apple computers are $500 more than the equivalent competition! So a computer from a budget manufacturer like Dell should be faster, lighter, and quieter than the MacBook Air for less money!

      This story must be a LIE!!

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    5. Re:Article summary nails it by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      how unfairly some fictional 'anti-Mac fanatics' will respond

      Fictional? GMAFB. Read any /. story that can possibly, in any way, be interpreted as having something to do with Apple, and you'll see plenty of this fanaticism on display.

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  3. Adamo from Dell by Gizzmonic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dell Adamo, for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.

    And yes, that website is hideous Flashturbation. I dare you to "encounter," "admire," "discover," or "commit" anything useful about the Adamo on the page. Apple gets credit here for blending marketing and tech specs. Where is the audience for Adamo? They already bought Apple or they're scratching their heads trying to find out how much RAM and CPU it has.

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    1. Re:Adamo from Dell by ivan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dell Adamo, for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.

      Did you miss the part where it's more expensive than an Air?

    2. Re:Adamo from Dell by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Informative

      Dell Adamo, for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.

      Umm...

      Dell Adamo:

      • 1.2GHz - $1999
      • 1.4GHz - $2699

      Apple MacBook Air:

      • 1.6GHz - $1799
      • 1.4GHz - $2499

      I'm no math whiz, but...

    3. Re:Adamo from Dell by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Informative

      Correction, that last MacBook Air should be the 1.86GHz model.

    4. Re:Adamo from Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Owning a MBA requires one to spend $100/day at Starbucks, $1300/month at Armani and $90/month with AT&T.

      Adamo, in comparison, only requires $8/day at Starbucks, $50/month at GAP and nothing with AT&T.

    5. Re:Adamo from Dell by beelsebob · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why are you even bothering comparing a 17 or 18" gaming hunk of junk with a 13" ultra-thin?

  4. Apples and Oranges? by icebike · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The processor speed of the Macbook Air was a lot higher than the Adamo. The Adamo easily outpaced the Lenovo with the same processor speed.

    Of course processor speed isn't everything.

    The video card is the key here (or so the reviewers would have your believe).

    In the real world that this device was meant to operate in, I suspect Joe User would never notice the difference in video performance since its adequate for YouTube.

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    1. Re:Apples and Oranges? by MBCook · · Score: 5, Informative

      Gizmodo mentions the CPU speed thing, but they also point out the Air is cheaper in it's minimal configuration but still faster than the Adamo.

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    2. Re:Apples and Oranges? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Informative

      The base model Air is a 1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor (SL9300) with a 1066MHz FSB and 6MB cache whereas the base Adamo has a 1.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (SU9300) with a 800 MHz FSB and 3MB cache. At $1799, the Air uses a 120GB SATA and the $1999 Adamo uses a 128GB SSD. The $2699 Adamo ups the CPU to 1.4 GHz and the memory to 4GB but still at 800MHz FSB.

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    3. Re:Apples and Oranges? by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I loved how when talking about the "minimum configuration' in respect to the MBA being "better", you only picked those attributes that the MBA was ahead in, and none of those that it was not.

      Subtle. I like it.

      I didn't see any mention of integrated EvDO. eSATA. I liked the little spin that implies "you can get an SSD with the Adamo, but it'll cost you", neglecting the fact that the Adamo's SSD retails for around $450, whereas the difference in price is $200 + $48 for the MBA's 120GB SATA drive (unless of course you bought it from Apple, who'd probably charge you $200 for it)...

  5. Re:Which is it? Cheap, Fast, or Pretty? by geekboy642 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your entire post would make sense if only one thing were true. If this PC weren't MORE expensive than the closest Mac counterpart, you could excuse poor build quality, under-powered processor, and heftiness as merely being good value for dollar. But that's not true. It's MORE EXPENSIVE than the Air. A slim laptop that's more pricey than the already overpriced status symbol that is the Macbook Air, but provides significantly less value? Somebody failed, and failed hard.

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  6. Dell really should have called it Adama by SkinnyKid63 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They could give it a gruff exterior, but it would kick the ass of any other computer that got in its way, Apple or Cylon.

  7. My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, by Logic+Worshipper · · Score: 2, Interesting

    and cheaper. 1.2Ghz dual core processor? Wtf? My 2 year old 3lb thinkpad has a 1.8Ghz dual core processor, and I bought it new for half what an Adamo costs 2 years ago. If an Adamo was a cheaper alternative to a thinkpad I could understand, but it's more expensive too! Why would anyone in their right mind buy a Adamo instead of thinkpad?

    1. Re:My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, by beelsebob · · Score: 2, Informative

      Did you miss the bit where you could fit two adamos/airs inside your think pad. The think pad is a thick 14" laptop, these are two *ultra* thin, very light 13" laptops. Where by ultra thin, we mean average 0.46" thick, compared to your thinkpad's average 1.175". And by light, we mean 3lb, not your thinkpad's 5.1lb.

    2. Re:My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, by beelsebob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh fail, I read T61, but then, you could fit *three* MacBook airs inside the thicknss of the X61.

  8. Re:I've already said so by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A lot of us like netbooks precisely because they don't have full size keyboards or screens.

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  9. It gets worse: See the commercial. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Funny
  10. Yay for expanding my vocabulary! by zooblethorpe · · Score: 5, Funny

    And yes, that website is hideous Flashturbation.

    Thank you, Gizmonic, for introducing me to yet another word I expect never to use in polite company. :)

    Cheers,

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  11. Anyone Else Bothered ... by saltydog56 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the slot for the ATT SIM Card (a more elegant solution than USB device by God!) kind of tilts the playing field in the direction of one vendor? If I were to pay that much for a laptop I would want everything about it to be "general purpose" to the largest extent possible.

  12. Re:I've already said so by Duradin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "An ounce in the morning is a pound in the evening." - Old hiking adage.

    If you're paying good money for laptop that focuses on portability weight is rather important.

    At first, you think the people that cut down the handles of their toothbrush to save weight are rather nuts. Then you find out that all their crazy methods of shaving off weight from individual items actually ends up to a noticeable reduction in overall weight.

    The same principles applies to more work related traveling. If you can shave off a pound here, a few ounces there, eventually you're commuting with a noticeably lighter load.

  13. Off topic: why GHz? by jw3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a genuine question, not a troll. I'm really interested in the answer.

    What is the meaning of comparing the GHz as a major factor in evaluation of a laptop? I'm a bioinformatician. I do most of my work on an X40 Thinkpad. For small jobs, this is more than sufficient. For major calculations, one or two cores will not suffice, no matter what the GHz.

    From my experience, for most of the tasks, a difference of even 10% in the speed is not an issue, and anyway, there are dozens of other factors that influence both, the real computing speed and the reactivity of the interface. To me, things like memory, disk access, networking, cacheing, usage pattern and last but not least, what software solution you have picked for your task seem to be more influencial on the overall perfomance than a difference between 1.6 or 1.86 GHz. Yet in most comparisons (e.g. several posts here on Slashdot), when talking of a laptop, first two things to mention are the price tag and the GHz.

    Question: am I missing something? What is so important about the GHz of the processor to use it as a proxy for "performance"? Is it just historical, or maybe because it is easy to quantify, like in the case of megapixels in digital cameras (which are nowadays mostly meaningless, but easy to compare)?

    j.

  14. Re:I've already said so by maxume · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yet this brings to mind a fat guy riding an extremely fancy bike.

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  15. Re:I've already said so by KylePflug · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A lot of mobile professionals who carry computers in a bag along with, say, documents or books will find "thin" to be at least as important as the other dimensions. For example, a 17" Macbook and a 13" Macbook take up functionally the same amount of space in a messenger bag (1"), which is a lot less than many cheaper computers.

    Thin is expensive, and is only worth it if it's actually useful, but sometimes it is truly useful.

  16. Commercial badly needed Ricardo Montalban by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Funny

    That commercial would have been perfect, if only Ricardo Montalban were still with us to tout the "Rich Corinthian Leather" of the Adamo (and hey, they DO talk about leather around 2:17 in the Adamo video).

      It could be in a wrist pad...

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  17. Re:Which is it? Cheap, Fast, or Pretty? by Auroch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They're competing in a market filled with people BUYING MACBOOK AIRs. They don't need to be intelligent. They just need to look expensive.

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