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Microsoft and Yahoo Discussing Search Partnership

An anonymous reader writes "The Guardian reports that Microsoft and Yahoo are talking about a search engine partnership as they desperately try to come up with something, anything, to take on Google. 'Although there is no suggestion that Microsoft's failed bid will be resurrected, the two companies are believed to be discussing ways they can link up to combat the growing power of their chief rival, Google. Quoting sources close to the discussions, the authoritative Dow Jones All Things Digital blog said that "the talks between the pair are preliminary and wide-ranging."'"

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  1. Last! Ummm... wait... by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that doesn't work, does it?

    Anyway, Google started with a search methodology that was dreamed up by two guys in their spare time. Obviously, it was a good one. Still, seems to me that Microsoft and Yahoo, with all their money and competent programmers, simply need to come up with a better one. Otherwise, what else can they bring to the table?

  2. I doubt it will work by Choozy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google is now synomonous with the internet. It would take an amazing search engine to be able to topple Google's power.

    1. Re:I doubt it will work by Jurily · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Google is now synomonous with the internet.

      Just a quick test: you google something, and nothing comes up. Is your first thought "I need to try another search site" or "I need to check my search terms"?

    2. Re:I doubt it will work by bit01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That really depends on what one happens to be searching for. In a lot of cases, yes, it means "I need to try another search engine".

      Every now and then I try other search engines just to make sure I'm not missing anything. They always fail because they:

      1. are too slow.
      2. are overloaded with advertising drivel.
      3. don't find what I'm looking for.
      4. find too many things I'm not looking for.
      5. cover a uselessly small domain.
      6. don't allow expressive search expressions.
      7. make elementary interface errors.
      8. confuse trendiness with usefulness.

      Sometimes all eight. And lets not forget all the internal search engines such as slashdot's. I've yet to come across even a single one that wasn't designed by people with the IQ's of gerbils.

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  3. Why MS cant compete effectively by Froze · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MS motive: Make money by throwing large amounts of MS branded crap (with some useful stuff) at you and hope your willing to pay to have it cleaned up so you can keep the bits you like.

    Google motive: Make money by throwing large amounts of information at you with some of revenue targeted information you may be interested in.

    Until MS turns it model around and starts giving people what they want first and then cashing in on that association, they won't beat the trend that Google has going, unless Google turns around and start sending you crap first.

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    1. Re:Why MS cant compete effectively by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or, a different way to put it: MS has difficulty because they operate under the assumption that end users will like what they produce, while Google is successful producing things that their end users will like. Rather than saying "This is what you should expect the Internet to be like", Google simplifies things and is more customer driven.

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  4. It's like a Reces Peanut Butter Cup by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only instead of Peanut Butter and Chocolate, they look to combine used motor oil in a crunchy shell of glass shards.

    Metaphorically speaking.

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  5. Re:first post by Samschnooks · · Score: 4, Funny
    You misspelled it - it's frist pospt! God!

    You see, it's a technique. It takes years of practice. First, you drink a shit load of caffeine. Then, after it gets in your system, you bring up Slashdot. Then, and only then, you get in touch with your inner self, connect with the Universe, and connect with your higher power as you see Him.

    Now, type blindingly fast "First Post". Hopefully, it will come out fist5 posts. See how I did that?

    Again.

    firsyt posts.

    See?

    Now, you try.

  6. Re:Last! Ummm... wait... by religious+freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's what I love about IT. All the money in the world won't necessarily beat a persistent and smart person.

    Even if you tie two rocks together, it doesn't mean they'll float. MS and Yahoo need to look into R&D, not merger - this move makes no sense.

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  7. I've seen the future of Search, and it's name is by rinkjustice · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Twitter.

    Twitter provides realtime search. It shows intent realtime. It shows trends. It's faster than the news media and blogs, and, with a 140 character limit, it cuts to the chase. And it's growing like crazy.

    MS and / or Yahoo should be looking at Twitter seriously. It's the real deal.

  8. Ya gotta love the hypocrisy by AnalPerfume · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When Google were sniffing around Yahoo, Microsoft complained that a monopoly (in online advertising) was "a bad deal for the consumer". They then release the lobbying hounds to Washington and ensure that any deal is blocked as "anti-competitive". Like most sane people, I agree with them that monopolies are bad for the consumer. Considering their own monopolies on desktop OS's people can buy in stores, and office suites I'd love the same tools to be turned back on Microsoft now. I'd love Google to lobby Washington with the exact same argument Microsoft used. Having said that, politicians decisions are more to do with who is bought than any rightness of a cause.

    I'd love to see Microsoft waste money on yet another falling star, try to get market share by acquisition rather than providing a product / service people actually want. Business as usual really. This time round they may not want all of Yahoo, but only cherry pick parts of it. The part that I'd draw attention to is Zimbra. We all know how Microsoft love competition to their flagship earners, so any Yahoo deal will involve the destruction of Zimbra as we know it. Does anyone know offhand how well placed Zimbra is license wise to fork if / when the hammer of Redmond strikes?

  9. To be fair, Yahoo's search engine is good. by blind+biker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's only very slightly worse than Google, nowadays. Microsoft's, on the other hand, is still crap on a stick, and it's not worth spending time talking about.

    So, returning to Yahoo: at this point, what Yahoo needs is a better image, as the search engine itself, in its core, is fine. And to improve their image, Yahoo might want to tone down the "noise" that their site seems to throw at the users. Also, Yahoo should do a real effort to actually unify all those services inside of "My Yahoo". As it is now, "My Yahoo" is utterly useless, and the various Yahoo services seem to be kept together with spit or nothing. MOstly nothing.

    For an example of the "Yahoo noise" I was talking about, just see Yahoo Messenger. I hate that shit with passion (but am forced to use it 'cause my GF likes it, and is convinced that the "connection is better than with Skype").

    That said, Yahoo services are less "noisy" than Hotmail and the resto of MSN.

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  10. Re:My recent search with Google by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 3, Informative

    When I punched your search terms into Google, the first result I get back is the wdc.com (Western Digital's site) page for that model of drive. Second result is a questionable tech site, third result is a PCWorld review of the drive. I suspect the problem is on your end, not Google's.