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Spam Replacing Postal Junk Mail?

TheOtherChimeraTwin writes "I've been getting spam from mainstream companies that I do business with, which is odd because I didn't give those companies my email address. It is doubly strange because the address they are using is a special-purpose one that I wouldn't give out to any business. Apparently knotice.com ('Direct Digital Marketing Solutions') and postalconnect.net aka emsnetwork.net (an Equifax Marketing Service Product with the ironic name 'Permission!') are somehow collecting email addresses and connecting them with postal addresses, allowing companies to send email instead of postal mail. Has anyone else encountered this slimy practice or know how they are harvesting email addresses?"

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  1. Do you shop online? by Old97 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Every time I buy something on-line I have to provide my billing address so now the e-mail address I use and possibly more (can it read cookies?) is known to the vendor who can turn around and sell that information to others. How easy is it for some Javascript or something to poke around for e-mail addresses when you are at a site? Also, my e-mail providers know my address - i.e. yahoo, google, aol, apple and comcast. Could they be selling that information? I wouldn't be surprised.

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  2. I had enough by Krneki · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use 2 emails, one for spam and one for private mails.
    Now both my emails are full of junk, but while google spam option are working my old yahoo email is beyond saving.
    Just keep clicking on "this is spam". It's not worth your time to understand why it's happening, and even if you do understand, you will find out it's impossible to avoid.

    Hell, I can't even check my old SMS because it's full of spam.

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  3. Re:have your own domain-get universal forwarding by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Many websites which require email addresses discourage and in fact prevent the use of + while signing up.

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  4. Re:have your own domain-get universal forwarding by AnalPerfume · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If I need to reply to an email to join a site I'm dubious about, in other words actually receive it, I use the Trashmail addon for Firefox. It expires after a couple of emails. If they turn out to be OK, I can then change the email to a more permanent one in the options.

  5. Re:have your own domain-get universal forwarding by SpammersAreScum · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yup. I suspect this is a case where Hanlon's Razor should be remembered.

  6. Re:I wish spam replaced postal junk mail by RoboRay · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a trash can right next to my mailbox, which enables me to deal with paper spam about as easily as the electronic kind.

    I do keep the little response cards with "return postage guaranteed" stamps, though. Those are great for gluing to bricks or other heavy objects you want to dispose of. Drop them in a mail box, and they not only get wind up in a mailbox at the company that spammed you, but that company gets billed for the postage, by weight. The heavier the object, the better!

  7. Re:Email Append - BINGO! by TheOtherChimeraTwin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, I think you've hit the nail on the head. Experian eMail Append overlays deliverable email addresses onto your active customer file and contacts customers via email on your behalf to obtain permission to communicate with them online.

    By "permission" they mean they send you email until you complain. If they happen to pick an email address that is normally not read by a person, they don't get any complaints. (Not that I opt-out of spam; I block it.)

    Further on, they state Retain your customers by keeping your brand top-of-mind through consistent, relevant and interactive email communications. Yeah, good luck with that. I know four companies that have just lost my repeat business.

    Thanks to all for an excellent discussion.

  8. Re:GMail by Sephr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems you think spam is always all caps. All-caps spam is a trademark of the makers of that lunchmeat: http://www.spam.com/about/internet.aspx