Slashdot Mirror


When Politicians Tax Violent Video Games

talien79 writes "Taxing video games has a storied history in state legislatures. The reality is that video games, violent or otherwise, simply make too much money to be stopped. But taxing them is a viable compromise, a 'sin tax' of sorts similar to that levied on cigarettes. This article reviews the time-honored tactic of politicians pandering to their base: taxing violent video games."

28 of 315 comments (clear)

  1. but but but, it's for a good cause!! by kcornia · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sure ALL the tax revenue will go towards educating kids on the dangers of violent video games and/or to the victims or violent video game inspired violence, right?

    RIGHT?

    1. Re:but but but, it's for a good cause!! by linhares · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sure ALL the tax revenue will go towards educating kids on the dangers of violent video games and/or to the victims or violent video game inspired violence, right?

      No, sir, you see, it's on my contract here. The money comes to me.

      Yours Truly,

      --Dr. A. Linhares, Senior Vice President, AIG.

    2. Re:but but but, it's for a good cause!! by rackserverdeals · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, that's exactly what's going to happen.

      They plan on showing them computer simulations of violent acts to illustrate how bad violence is.

      I've seen the prototype of the simulation. It's pretty neat. It's from a first person perspective of someone running around killing people and being shot at. And it progresses. First you get to see what the horrors are of killing people with a pistol. Then you pick up a shot gun and see how horrible it is. Then you pick up a machine gun and see that atrocity.

      There's even a little number at the top that keeps count of how much you've learned.

      --
      Dual Opteron < $600
    3. Re:but but but, it's for a good cause!! by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who cares where the tax revenues go. It all goes into the general treasury anyway. People who believe in earmarked revenues let themselves be misled. Ever wonder why earmarked revenues rarely result in higher spending on the earmarks' targets? Spending from the general treasury is reduced to make up for the earmarked spending.

      My biggest problem with this has nothing to do with where the money is spent. It's with the concept that violence is OK, as long as you're willing to pay extra for it. So next time I pick up a hooker, it'll be OK if I beat her on top of screwing her, as long as I give her an extra $40 or so? Or If I send an extra $40 to the government as a "sin tax"?

      If you take the ideas of these brain-dead lawmakers and their brain-dead constituents, this is the logical conclusion.

      Also, while we're at it, let's tax movie tickets on a sliding scale based on their rating. G? Pay the sales tax. PG? Pay 2 x sales tax. PG-13? 3 x sales tax. Etc.

      --
      "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
    4. Re:but but but, it's for a good cause!! by slummy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So next time I pick up a hooker, it'll be OK if I beat her on top of screwing her, as long as I give her an extra $40 or so?

      You might want to OK the beating with him/her first. Otherwise her pimp Sugar might get wind of it and give you a really bad day.

    5. Re:but but but, it's for a good cause!! by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It'll go towards paying the debt for the violence in Iraq.

    6. Re:but but but, it's for a good cause!! by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Funny

      So next time I pick up a hooker, it'll be OK if I beat her on top of screwing her, as long as I give her an extra $40 or so?

      I thought the lesson of video games was that if you beat up the hooker, you got your $40 *back*.

    7. Re:but but but, it's for a good cause!! by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Okay I am on the opposite side of most people when it comes to video games. I have no problem with mandatory age restrictions on video games. I have no issue with taxing cigs and alcohol. But I have an issue with extra tax on video games. Yes I see how Left4Dead would be unhealthy for an 8 year old to play but for a normal adult it is just fine. Violent video games are no worse than violent movies or books.
      If you want to tax a game how about golf? Golf Courses do a huge amount of damage to the environment. How about a $5 a round tax on golf and a $1.00 a ball tax on golf balls.
      Of course who will pay the sin tax on game America's Army?

      --
      See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
  2. This is how government controls us. by tmosley · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They steal more from those they don't like than those they do. God help you if they don't like you.

    1. Re:This is how government controls us. by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Funny

      First they came for the AIG executive bonuses, but I did not speak up, because the AIG executives were a bunch of jerks...

      --
      The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
  3. Movies? by maxter3185 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ok, fine, do it, but what about violent movies and TV shows?

    --
    I have pictures o' your momma and sista naked
    1. Re:Movies? by linhares · · Score: 3, Interesting

      MEMO to game makers: PLEASE make a game with the most kick-ass moments from the bible and market it as a christian thing.

  4. Violent games are never good by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good for them. It's not like violent games ever show justified violence, or even semi-realistic portrayals of current foreign combat. It's not like there is ever a point of the violence.

    Violence is always bad. It's never a good way to put an end to problems people may face.

    --
    Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
  5. Re:Tax my Toilet by ArcherB · · Score: 4, Funny

    When will they eventually get to the point of taxing what comes out of my butt?

    Unless you make more than $250,000, you have nothing to worry about. Obama said so:

    "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    Maybe you'll have to take your pay stub into the store to prove that you make less than a quarter mill' a year. I'm still waiting for my cigarette tax refund paper work to come in the mail I paid the extra $1.00 tax recently and I don't make more than $250,000/yr.

    --
    There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
  6. Re:stupid by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why not tax for having ides, next?

    Uh-oh, March is gonna be screwed come tax time.

    --
    "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
  7. Constitutional? by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would the Supreme Court find a content based tax constitutional? I can see how states would get away taxing all video games, but taxing one type of video game based on its content seems like a first amendment issue. Are there other types of media that get this treatment?

    --
    Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
    1. Re:Constitutional? by mea37 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, tax laws can apparently be used to punish you for something you did before the law was passed (see AIG bonuses), so why would the Constitution apply in this case?

    2. Re:Constitutional? by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or to put it a different way: since the Congress is now passing blantenly unconstitutional bills of attainder (see AIG bonuses), are there any cases in which the Constitution still applies?

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
  8. Ahem... by momerath2003 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a perfect example of a sin tax error.

    Thank you, I'll be here all night.

    --
    I had but a simple dream, to destroy all humans.
  9. Re:Tax my Toilet by mu11ing1t0ver · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is an example of the fallacy that consuming energy requires one to expel carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. For counterexample, check out the promising new 'photosynthesis' technology that the plant world has been working on.

  10. Taxing for taxes sake. by geekmux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A sin tax? Are we serious? What's next? Will confessionals become toll booths? What constitutes a sin and by whos guage?

    And targeting this? Why don't you call it what it is. "Wow, you make too much money, we need to figure out a way to tax you more."

    I'll tell you what's a sin here. Re-electing these morons back in office. Give me a break. How about we look to tax lawmakers who fail to show up for work?

    Freaking morons.

  11. Re:Tax my Toilet by GNUbuntu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure anyone except for people who are trying to nitpick non-issues knew that Obama was only talking about Federal taxes. There are plenty of good reasons to bash Obama, this one is just flat out stupid.

  12. New Tax Idea by Sir_Real · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Let's just tax bad parents. You let your kid fail spelling? That's a hundred bucks. You let your kid fail math? That's two hundred. You let your kid fail PE? Well, celibacy is it's own tax plus, he/she won't be squishing out any more sedentary, garbage pile producing crotchfruit to compete with the resources of other, more fit people. TAX PARENTS.

  13. Re:Tax my Toilet by CrashPoint · · Score: 4, Funny

    Which part of "...not any of your taxes" did you not understand?

    We've heard that before, though, haven't we?

  14. Re:stupid by toriver · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, we beware those.

  15. Re:Tax my Toilet by mu11ing1t0ver · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The difference is that there's piles of peer-reviewed research showing that smoking will definitely kill you. Video games, not so much.

  16. Cigarette Tax eh? by Chas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So when you buy that $7.00 pack of cigs, you know that $6.00 of it is taxes right?

    So, we can look forward to paying $350 for a boxed title that goes for $50 now?

    Fuck that noise.

    --


    Chas - The one, the only.
    THANK GOD!!!
  17. Re:Tax my Toilet by brkello · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are retarded. It would be like if we were playing WoW and I told you I would give you a flying mount. Then you get pissed off that I only gave you a flying mount in the game and not in real life. It was implicit that I was giving you a flying mount in the game, but you understood it wrong because you are stupid. You don't care that I don't have the power to produce a real flying mount. You are just going to complain how awful I am because I broke a promise in your mind when any reasonable person would be able to figure things out by context.

    --
    Support a great indie game: http://www.abaddon360.com