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PG&E Makes Deal For Solar Power From Space

N!NJA writes "California's biggest energy utility announced a deal Monday to purchase 200 megawatts of electricity from a startup company that plans to beam the power down to Earth from outer space, beginning in 2016. Solaren would generate the power using solar panels in Earth orbit and convert it to radio-frequency transmissions that would be beamed down to a receiving station in Fresno, PG&E said. From there, the energy would be converted into electricity and fed into PG&E's power grid."

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  1. Re:Not a problem, don't be such worrywarts by Jacques+Chester · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I sometimes wonder if SimCity has done more damage to the progress of orbital solar than all other causes combined.

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  2. Re:In all seriousness... by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    couldn't this also be used as a weapon?

    Yes. But as the Russians found out - any energy source can be used as a weapon. The more people are dependent on it, the better. And such usage doesn't even involve violence - just mention that there might be some service disruptions, outages, etc, if you don't get your way.

  3. Re:It think they've been duped. by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Nope. The amount of sunlight per m2 in space is several factors higher than on earth.

    The solar constant is about 1.4 kW/m^2 in Earths orbit. I fail to see how they want to produce 200 MW with significantly less than 0.2 km^2 of collector area. Care to explain it to me?

  4. Re:In all seriousness... by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "couldn't this also be used as a weapon?"

    No, it will never get off the ground.

    Having said that, Solaren's web site is all about down to earth renewable projects. The 200MW of power the power company has pledged to buy is the equivalent of 40 commercial windmills. My guess is this is a "foot in the door" deal that cost neither party a cent but Solaren now know what the power company are willing to pay. Using this knowledge they can go back at a later date and convert the pie-in-the-sky pledge into a purchase from a normal wind/solar farm that will do the same thing for the same predetermined price.

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  5. Re:Bad idea by Lloyd_Bryant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is that a laser beam doesn't go any faster than light speed, either.

    The satellite would have to determine on its own whether it's still pointing the right way.

    That's why I specified that the *receiver* have a very limited field of vision. If the satellite rotates enough to be off target, it can no longer see the laser. Thus no latency issues.

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  6. Re:Bad idea by blueskies · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why don't you stand in front of a 200 Megawatt transmission and get back to us on that one?

  7. Re:Bad idea by Raenex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I *GAVE* them a damned idea that would save MILLIONS and cost very little to implement. I even did the research myself. And THIS is what they're getting? My idea would've generated ten times the amount of power, at FAR LESS COST.

    Then publish your research and promote it.