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Strings Link the Ultra-Cold With the Super-Hot

gabrlknght writes "Superstring theory claims the power to explain the universe, but critics say it can't be tested by experiment. Lately, though, string math has helped explain a couple of surprising experiments creating 'perfect liquids' at cosmic extremes of hot and cold. 'Both systems can be described as something like a shadow world sitting in a higher dimension. Strongly coupled particles are linked by ripples traveling through the extra dimension, says Steinberg, of Brookhaven. String math describing such ripples stems from an idea called the holographic principle, used by string theorists to describe certain kinds of black holes. A black hole's entropy depends on its surface area — as though all the information in its three-dimensional interior is stored on its two-dimensional surface. (The 'holographic' label is an allusion to ordinary holograms, where 3-D images are coated on a 2-D surface, like an emblem on a credit card.) The holographic principle has value because in some cases the math for a complex 3-D system (neglecting time) can be too hard to solve, but the equivalent 4-D math provides simpler equations to describe the same phenomena.'"

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  1. Come back in 10 minutes by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Once you've put Octavarium by Dream Theater on and smoked a fat joint, this will make a lot more sense.

    To you, at least.

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  2. Re:Lovely by Stickerboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    >Yet another physical phenomenon fits the theory of everything. How about a prediction from string theory for once?

    You'll find that in String Theory 2: The Search For More Grant Money...

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  3. Re:Hang on by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Informative
    Imagine the surface of a typical PVC pipe. It's long in one direction (perhaps infinitely long, probably not though) but in the other dimension it's actually kind of small - it's sort of "rolled up". Keep going around and you loop.

    Dimensions can have all sorts of zany topologies going out to infinity.

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  4. Info on ultracold physics by azure8472 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Ultracold" here refers to degenerate Fermi gases, not Bose-Einstein condensates (BEC).

    Here's a layman article:
    A Fermi gas of atoms
    Deborah Jin
    Physics World, 2002

    And the original publication by the Duke group:
    Observation of a Strongly Interacting Degenerate Fermi Gas of Atoms
    K. M. O'Hara, S. L. Hemmer, M. E. Gehm, S. R. Granade, J. E. Thomas
    Science Vol 298, p 2179 - 2182 (2002)

  5. Re:More faith than science by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here is the thing. There are people that understand it, and can explain it. Just because you need a Phd to understand it.

    You are right to be skeptical, but don't confuse not being able to understand something with it not being understandable.

    It also make predictions.

    There are tests, we need a certain collider to come on line...

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  6. Re:String "Theory" is Retarded by JohnFluxx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why are people modding this up?

    A thin hologram can be represented truly as a 2D surface. You can print a thin hologram out using a laser printer and transparencies. You can even display a hologram on a TFT.

    The fact that you don't even understand holograms makes me wonder why you are even commenting on string theory.

    It's become very popular these days to bash string theory, yet noone has an alternative.

    People like sexconker want to remove grant money from research into any new theory until they have a theory that is complete. And yet it can't be completed with people actually working on it.

  7. Re:More faith than science by domatic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes there are tests but the tests won't be definitive. One of the problems with string theories is that there are a multitude of them and they very very mutable. The collider will only rule out (likely) or confirm (doubtful) a subset of the possible string theories. However, the remainder of the string theories will be safe from falsifiable experimentation. What is needed but lacking is way to winnow out candidate string theories that a) describe our/the universe, b) solve current quandaries of physics like why certain physical constants have the values that they do, c) make predictions which are practical to confirm, d) are parsimonious as string theories are notorious for introducing several new constants and constructs for every one they explain.

    Now I may not be a PhD but I am a taxpayer who is happy to see some of his taxes go to funding basic scientific research. And I agree with those who say that the current fashionability of string theories preclude other approaches from being funded and that string theories are getting a free pass on standards of prediction, observation, and experiment that other branches of science are held to.

    Incidentally, a hallmark of all other good theories in physics to date is that all can be represented by fairly simple systems of equations which an Asimov, a Sagan, or for that matter a good HS science teacher can explain to an interested (and research funding...) public. Be they Newtons Law's, Special and General Relativity, or Maxwell's Equations, good theories tend to have a parsimonious tightness to them that practically shout out what experiments one should do next. Now I realize that in the end, that the universe need not conform to such beautiful systems but the fact that to date that it has and string theories most certainly are not give me pause.

    The FA at least holds out some hope for winnowing out more implausible string theories (and no the idea that all string theories describe a possible universe cuts zero ice until someone finds a way to observe/test that) at least and maybe showing the way to an actual viable theory that is more than pretty math.

  8. Not about string *theory*! by Chuckstar · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article really is not about string theory. The article is really about the math developed as people have explored string theory. It is this math that has been applied in explaining "perfect liquid" experiments.

  9. Re:Of course by emjay88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Science is not separate from religion; it will merely prove what religion already says is out there and how it got here

    Exactly, just like Noah's flood, and how the earth was created around 6000 years ago and how people used to live for hundreds of years. Oh wait....

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  10. Is this a fair analogy? by serutan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My non-technical mother in law is interested in string theory but she has no clue what it's about, except that everything in the universe is made out of tiny "strings" that go into another dimension. She is a retired grade school teacher and knows what atoms and subatomic particles are, and she understands the idea of a line having zero width and a plane having zero thickness. I'm trying to come up with an analogy that will get across the basic idea.

    Say the universe is two-dimensional, like the surface of a drum. No thickness, just a plane. Then say somebody outside of the universe pokes a needle through the drum head and pulls a piece of thread through it. The thread is one-dimensional, with no actual thickness, so the place where it goes through is just a point. Nobody who lived in the 2-dimensional surface could see the point because it has no thickness. But what if the thread vibrates like a guitar string... as it moves back and forth, the point where it goes through the drum also moves back and forth. The spot becomes a little line. If the string didn't vibrate exactly back and forth but kind of wandered around in a fuzzy pattern, the point would look like a hazy dot.

    Because the string vibrates so fast, the people in the plane of the drumhead would never perceive it as a point, but only as a blurry spot (assuming they could see things that small).

    That's what a subatomic particle is in our universe, except in 3 dimensions. Wherever a vibrating cosmic string passes through our universe, it forms a hazy dot-like pattern in space, which to us is a subatomic particle.

    I know this is far from exact, but does it give enough of the general idea?