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New Data Center Will Heat Homes In London

1sockchuck writes "The heat generated by thousands of servers at the new Telehouse West data center in London will soon be used to heat nearby houses and businesses. The Greater London Authority has approved a plan in which waste heat from the colocation facility will be used in a district heat network for the local Docklands community. The project is expected to produce up to nine megawatts of power for the local community."

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  1. Hey now, control yourself... by gbulmash · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Final Sentence of TFA: "The GLA (Greater London Authority) said that the agreed solution represents the best possible outcome within the specific constraints of the scheme and accords with the objectives of London Plan policy 4A.6."

    You know, lavishing praise on a project like that is going to make all the other projects jealous.

  2. The best part? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It'll work all year round! You'll never feel cold in July ever again, and you may not even need to use your oven to make a roast.

    1. Re:The best part? by XDirtypunkX · · Score: 4, Funny

      They have summer in London now?

    2. Re:The best part? by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Funny

      We're going to see a big rise in nerdy homeowners creating homebrew stirling engines to convert the heat back into power, so as to power their desk fans ;).

    3. Re:The best part? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      Seriously, though, what will they do with the excess heat in summer time?

      This is the UK we are talking about. They don't really have a summer.

    4. Re:The best part? by shri · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What happens if the next generation of servers run 10 Degrees cooler?

    5. Re:The best part? by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Informative

      Some years we do. We tend to celebrate with a hosepipe ban.

      I think there may have been 3 or more days of sun in August 2005.

    6. Re:The best part? by xaxa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yesterday's high was 22C. Predicted high for today is only 16C.

      I'm happy with a summer that means I can sit around outside without feeling uncomfortable, do some moderate exercise (eg play a sport) outside and not die, and have a home I can cool to a comfortable temperature for 95%+ of the time just by opening the windows.

  3. Brrr by PingPongBoy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cold here. Going to turn up the thermostat with some chess online.

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  4. Great idea by notarockstar1979 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's how we used to heat the offices neighboring our server room (and I'm sure many many people did it before I did). Glad to see them using it on a larger scale to save a bit of dosh.

  5. What happens if the Data Center shuts down? by ben2umbc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So what happens to these people's heat source if the data center is shut down or becomes obsolete in the future? I would expect the homes to be around much longer than a data center might.

    1. Re:What happens if the Data Center shuts down? by emandres · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, obviously this isn't going to be the primary source of heat for most of the homes involved. I would imagine that all of the homes that will be affected already have some sort of heating (e.g. furnace, base board heaters, etc). These people won't be completely freed from a monthly gas/electric heating bill, but I would imagine it will save them a pretty penny in the colder months. Really, this makes a whole lot of sense. I've had computers confined in a cabinet under a desk that ran so hot that the BIOS would shut down the computer if you didn't leave the cabinet door cracked. Granted, that was back in the P4 days (although I imagine the newer multi-core CPU's crank out their fair share of extra heating). That, and my laptop is currently acting as a rather nice heater for my lap.

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    2. Re:What happens if the Data Center shuts down? by crafty.munchkin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That, and my laptop is currently acting as a rather nice heater for my lap.

      I hope you don't wind up with a cyst developing in your testicle like I did... and that was only 2 hrs a day on the train using a laptop for 3 months. Admittedly this laptop was a piece of shit that should never have been released with the name laptop, and it got so hot i often would have to shut the bastard down half way through the train ride home as it was going to burn my legs. HTH, HAND.

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  6. call me an idealist, but by waveformwafflehouse · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I smell a new routing protocol that redirects traffic to the cold parts of the world

  7. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    if you stop reading slashdot your grandmother freezes to death?

  8. A cautionary thermal tale by Microship · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ages ago (60s or early 70s), a large aluminum company built a new HQ building (in Richmond, IIRC). They ran the numbers on computer-cooling vs building-heating, and made the computers an integral part of the equation (downscaling the heating plant accordingly). You see where this is going...

    As the move approached, the DP guys saw an opportunity, and canceled their PO to Armonk... opting instead for an Amdahl, I believe. Winter came, and people started wearing coats at their desks. My friend who worked there reported that they were hastily building a kluge auxiliary heating plant with insulated ducts running across a parking lot.

    Of course, the Docklands project doesn't sound like it's making any assumptions about the amount of waste heat, just doing something useful with it. But I hadn't thought of that paleo-computing tale in decades and had to pass it along.

  9. Re:Damn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cool it, you two.

  10. Anecdote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sometime ago, I had a conversation with someone who was complaining how inefficient his computer was; that 90% of the energy was turned into heat. My reply: "But doesn't that make it a very efficient heater?"

  11. Scaling up to combined heat and power by Rovaani · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cogeneration (or combined heat and power) can increase the efficiency of fossil fuel plants by a factor of 2 (from 50% to 93% efficiency mention in this Times article). The downside is that the the piping infrastructure investment needed is huge. Maybe this data center powered heating scheme can give it a leg up.

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  12. Humdity by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm an Aussie living in Melbourne so I get the joke. Occasionaly we get a news report of a London heat wave with a few days around 30degC, old people are dropping dead and young people are splashing around half naked in city fountains. It seem bizzare since a hot day here is 10-15degC hotter and we don't have dramas with old people until it gets around 40 or above.

    A few years back I went on my first trip to the UK (at the end of July) we had a 3 day stop over in Hong Kong on the way. Hong Kong was as unbearable as Darwin is in the wet season, 30-35 deg, no breeze and near 100% humidity. As we were approaching London the pilot announced the temprature in London had just broken it's record maximum temp ( 32degC IIRC ). The wife and I snickered at each other...the english have no idea what hot is... We stopped snickering as soon we walked out of the airport and hit a wall of warm humid air that was exactly like Hong Kong or Darwin, the only weather difference between the three places was the pollution levels.

    Of course the reason for the discomfort is high humidity from the massive ocean currents that bring warm water from the Gulf of Mexico.

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  13. The heat will be "low grade" by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    so I gather they are converting the excess heat to electricity

    No. AC heat is "low grade". That is it's a few degrees above ambient so it'd be wildly inefficient to try to generate electricity from it. Heat can be measured in Watts just as electricity can.

    e.g.
    A typical 1gW nuclear power station will produce about 2gW of heat for each 1gW of electricity (35% efficiency or so). This is "waste" heat, though of course, it could be used to power adsorption chillers or used for industrial processes or domestic space and water heating, usually it's pumped directly into an ocean or river. Our power infrastructure is highly inefficient, about 60% at the best power stations. Of the approx 40% of total energy which does get turned into electricity, most of this is used for stuff like Air Conditioning, which is simply heat management. Refrigeration, which is heat management. Space heating, which is heat management.

    We spend a lot of our time and money simply moving heat around (which is what they're doing in the article). This would be less of a problem if we were better at insulating things, there's actually no reason that the nearby houses should even need this heat, it's simply poor design.
     

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