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Obama To Get Secure BlackBerry 8830

CWmike writes "President Barack Obama is set to receive a high-security BlackBerry 8830 soon, The Washington Times reported today. The device is said to be in the final stages of development at the National Security Agency, which will check that its encryption software meets federal standards. It might not be ready for months. It was reported that Obama will be able to send text and e-mail messages and make phone calls on the device, but only to those with the secure software loaded on their own devices. The list includes First Lady Michelle Obama and top aides. The security software is made by Genesis Key, whose CEO, Steven Garrett, is quoted as saying: 'We're going to put his BlackBerry back in his hand.' The Sectera Edge was pegged in January by analysts as the top device choice because of its reputation for secure data communications when used by other federal workers. And there are many reasons why Obama might have been told 'no' on his BlackBerry. But Obama may wish he had chosen a Sectera if BlackBerry has more outage problems like its latest last week, which meant no mobile e-mail for hours across the US."

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  1. If they can do it for him by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am in line waiting for similar software to drive any portable device for communication I want to use.

    So in other words, how long before laws are drafted keeping the good stuff out of our hands under the guise of it only aids criminals? I can see it all now, a new email bill of rights that somehow strips me of the ones I need or have.

    I like the idea of the President having access to good, safe, and reliable, technology like this. I just hope that trickle down occurs.

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  2. CrackBerry: Just say no ;) by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been successfully resisting efforts by my boss to give me a Blackberry for the last two years. I've seen what it does to co-workers and friends who have them and have no desire to spend half of my next vacation (or weekend or day off) responding to e-mails that could wait. If it's really important they'll call me. If it's not then I guess they can figure it out on their own. I know that some people find them useful but I don't count myself as being one of them.

    As an aside, TFA says that the NSA is reviewing the security software. I wonder if they got access to the rest of the source-code and reviewed all of the other software? What does full time encryption do to the battery life and response time of the blackberry? I also wonder if the same restrictions that apply to other Federal workers regarding electronic devices will apply to his Blackberry? Will it be clipped to his waist when he's in the situation room dealing with the next international crisis? Or will he have to keep it out of secured areas?

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    1. Re:CrackBerry: Just say no ;) by rts008 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People will go to ridiculous lengths to avoid taking personal responsibility anymore it seems.

      Of course it can't be the stupid person's fault..it has to be that evil Blackberry possessing their soul.

      And turn it off? Ohhh, no! can't do that..might miss an important viagra email...from a Nigerian Prince!

      At an earlier job, one of these obnoxious devices was foisted on me. It never made sense to me, as nothing in my job was 'time critical', but 'everybody is going to this' was the reason. I tried warning them it would not work with me...

      So, when I got to work and after parking, I would turn it on as I entered the building, and when I left the building at the end of the day it would get turned off.
      Discussions with management usually turned silly:

      Boss: 'I tried calling your blackberry last night and all this morning! Where have you been?'
      Me: 'Last night I was home, and this morning at my desk, right next to my office phone, working.'
      Boss: 'Then why didn't you answer?'
      Me: 'My office phone never rang.'
      Boss: 'But I was calling your blackberry!'
      Me: 'Well, it was turned off.'
      Boss: '??!!?? Why?'
      Me: 'Because I have a working office phone right next to me, did not need the blackberry on.'
      Boss: 'What about last night?'
      Me: 'What about it? I was off work at home. I have a phone there also.'
      Boss:'?????'
      Me: 'You only get me for the hours you pay me for.'
      Boss: 'But but, it's a Blackberry!1'
      Me: 'Yeah, so?'
      Boss:'??????"*blank stare*

      Some people just don't get it, no matter how often they get hit with a clue-stick. That crap went on weekly, until I moved on to a better job...with no Blackberry.

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    2. Re:CrackBerry: Just say no ;) by Sun.Jedi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree with the others here. (sorry, bud).

      The boundary that you are on vacation, or 'not on-call', or even simply not required to respond to e-mails for, as you put it, if the situation warrants it, is just too simple to fix. I'm sure they send e-mails now, that you don't respond to (because your present mobile solution doesn't offer it), unless you spend your days off surfing your mail and responding.

      full disclosure: I have a blackberry 8830, and I am one of two admins (and we are the only 2 with UNIX responsibilities) managing 200+ servers in multiple datacenters. We own the environments from rack, power, cabling to consoles, hardware, OS, uptime, performance and capacity planning. We also own the SANs, and the backup strategy.

      I get e-mails all freaking day/night long, but if I'm on vacation (like today) I am not required to respond, unless I want to. If a production issue pops up, I am still not expected to respond, or jump in, again, unless I want to. If it's really bad, someone will call me, and I will still not be required to respond. There are times that I just can't pitch in, but I often do for that really important stuff. If it my week on call, I understand thats a 24x7 responsibility, but the escalation process specifically requires that the issue is a production class service or system.

      I understand that many admins are the only admin, but that shouldn't stop a proper classification of systems/services into categories of 'what can wait', and 'what needs immediate attention'. Set some reasonable boundaries, and the blackberry will actually make it easier to do your job.

    3. Re:CrackBerry: Just say no ;) by lee1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      His wife gave him an ultimatum: "Either you take THAT or ME on our next vacation.

      Well don't leave us in suspense. What did he decide?

  3. More outage problems? by homey+of+my+owney · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hey, I got an idea. Lets give one to every member of Congress!

  4. 6821 years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the title I thought it would take 6821 years to develop a secure BlackBerry.

  5. Usefulness limited? by worip · · Score: 2, Interesting

    but only to those with the secure software loaded on their own devices

    How useful is the phone then really, if you can not even call the dry cleaners down the street? Or maybe Obama only communicates with 5 or so people?

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  6. Re:Racism is Rampant... by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Both actually, the single fat coloured mammy sitting at home and so forth is spending part of her welfare check to be one of your clients/customers, and that thanks to her money she's spending at your business that you can thrive and pay your 14 employees.

    Now of course you probably stimulate more than she does, because if you're as successful as you make yourself sound, you have more money to spend, and therefore stimulate more. But the welfare check is stimulus money in that that's what allow people on welfare to keep on stimulating. It's the basics of economy really, it astounds me that the boss of such a flourish business such as you are would ignore that.

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  7. Um, last year by idiot900 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The BlackBerry network does have outages from time to time. But the linked article is from April 18, 2007!

  8. Re:Racism is Rampant... by yada21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But does it stimulate the economy more than it would have done if it had been left in the original taxpayer pocket?

    It's the broken window fallacy.

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  9. Outage by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 3, Funny

    Outage last week? Wow, what happened to ever checking the dates, yes, April 17th, of 2007!!! REALLY old news... I've got a crackberry, had one for forever, now have a non-presidential edition 8830. I would never give it up, in fact, I probably would give up a firstborn for it.

  10. Re:Will all those that he texts with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know reading the article is hard, but not even the summary?

  11. Uh oh by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When I hear that the President of my country, the commander in chief of its armed forces, is getting a "high security" blackberry which is being developed by our National Security Agency, all I can think of to say is 2 words..........

    Uh oh.

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  12. What's the big deal? by mraudigy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I mean, its really cool that the president will get back his Blackberry back and seems to embrace technology to some degree, but the DoD and the US Army have been issuing secure Blackberry's "encrypted to federal standards" for quite some time now.

  13. Re:Racism is Rampant... by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but in the case of a welfare mom with 4 kids, the main difference is that by giving her more money she'll give better food, a better health but more importantly a better education to her 4 children, the difference being ultimately that these children will grow up to be more qualified and thus produce more value/wealth, but also move up in social classes.

    What the heck are you basing this on? It's been my experience that welfare moms beget welfare children. And no, I'm not just parroting Rush Limbuagh. I've spent the last five years working for an agency in the human services field and my SO is a social worker with 13 years of experience. I've yet to see welfare moms produce anything other than welfare children. The welfare system in my experience creates a cycle of dependency that few people are able (or willing) to break out of.

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  14. Re:Will all those that he texts with by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    Summary? I don't even read the titles.

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  15. Why does it need to be secure? by bugeaterr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every communication will be something like this:

    Advisor: Mr. President, there's a prob with X, WTF shuld we do?
    President Obama: LOL! Throw money at it.
    Advisor: Good call, Mr. President. Culd u b more specific?
    President Obama: *sighs* Create a new "Czar of X" over the new "Bureau of X", silly.
    Advisor: OMFG, BHO ROCKS!

  16. iPhone vs. Crackberry - an issue of encryption by SrWebDeveloper · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm anxious to see when Apple will implement both data and transmission mandatory encryption on the iPhone for government and medical use. I attended an "iPhone and Government" meeting at one of Apples facilities in Reston, Va. the other day, with corporate representatives on hand to listen to the feedback of various agency IT/CIO folks and the concensus was Apple is working the DHS, OMB and other agencies to determine how Apple will pursue this. Being the iPhone was introduced only 20 some months ago, and version 3.0 of their OS is due later this year, their growth has been phenomenal, and finally they are devoting resources to the very vocal government sector who has hounded Apple to fully encrypt with sensible remote management and rollout.

    For those not aware, the iPhone accounts for 60% of all combined wireless web traffic, offers Wi-Fi support in addition to 3G, and there are over 30,000 apps developed by 50,000 registered app developers. All apps reside in a sandbox, i.e. each has its own keychain of data and content and each requires a signed Apple security certificate authority to even run on the iPhone.

    Many enterprise level apps already use proprietary encryption of data and transmission, password authentication and offer remote wipe, but we in the government await complete standardization of those (i.e. FDCC) as well as a vetted C&A process to ensure data integrity and performance.

    It's just a matter of time, according to Apple, that Obama and the White House IT Dept. might consider trading in his Crackberry for the much more powerful and user friendly iPhone.

  17. Re:Racism is Rampant... in my nose by Panaflex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Give this man a point.

    Moreover - blame politicians for ENGINEERING a political class totally dependent on his hand. It's brilliant - voters who depend on government assistance have practically no choice but to vote for the guy. And yes - I'm looking at republicans AND democrats.

    Can anyone explain how congress can get a measly 13% approval rating and still re-elect over 90% of it's members in the same month?

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  18. How much is this going to cost? by cptnapalm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it is relatively cheap, then ok, cool. The President wants a Blackberry and it won't be too expensive. No problem.

    But that isn't what it sounds like. Take months? How many man hours at what price per hour will be required so he can read his fan mail now instead of 30 minutes later? If the price is going to be exorbitant and this is little more than a vanity item, then no. Just no.

    1. Re:How much is this going to cost? by mysidia · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's a high-security BB. He won't be allowed to make a call or text message on the device except to someone on the approved list.

      If you ask me, on the surface, it sounds more like a parental control feature than a legitimate security feature.

  19. The President is not affected by BB outages by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unlike the rest of us, if the president can't make a call on his BB, there are a handful of high-security folks around that can make the call for him on some other device.

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  20. E-Mail is not really the issue by PPH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    TFA makes a big deal about the hackability and record-keeping issues surrounding e-mail. But that's really a non-issue, as RIM supports numerous corporate customers who have similar requirements. Its possible to configure a Blackberry to operate through a private enterprise e-mail system rather than the Canadian NOC. This answers many of the issues with record retention, encryption, and authentication (closely related to encryption).

    The one valid issue is the ability to track the device's location. Even without cracking message or voice encryption, any device using a cellular network can be located rather easily. I'm not certain whether the Sectera Edge uses a government (military?) network different than the commercial ones. If not, it will be as easy to follow as any cheap phone.

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