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Air Force One Flyby Causes Brief Panic In NYC

pdclarry writes "A Boeing 747 that serves as an Air Force One backup and two F-16 fighters escorting it caused a brief panic among office workers at the World Financial Center in lower Manhattan this morning, as large numbers evacuated the buildings. The incident was also spurred evacuations in Jersey City across the Hudson River from Manhattan."

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  1. Re:Wow.... by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Informative

    the last time a 747 flew low across downtown Manhattan, 3000 people died.

    While I appreciate your point, fact is, there wasn't a 747 involved in 9/11.

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  2. Re:What an irresponsible move! by snl2587 · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the NYT article:

    The Police Department confirmed that it had been notified about the event but said it had been barred from alerting the public. âoeThe flight of a VC-25 aircraft and F-16 fighters this morning was authorized by the F.A.A. for the vicinity of the Statue of Liberty with directives to local authorities not to disclose information about it but to direct any inquiries to the F.A.A. Air Traffic Security Coordinator,â the Police Department said in a statement. The mayor criticized the secrecy around the flyover. The e-mail notification âoedid have the normal language of saying this is sensitive information, should be distributed on a need-to-know basis, that they did not plan to have any publicity about it, which I think is ridiculous and just poor judgment,â Mr. Bloomberg said.

    Too lazy to remove the smartquotes, but you get the idea.

  3. Re:We are a bunch by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "those people" hated us (any western country not just the USA) long before Bush.

  4. Re:We are a bunch by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the escort case, the military planes fly on either side of the escortee. In the pursuit case, well, no airliner in current service can outrun a fighter jet, so the jet will be a mile or so back, directly behind the plane, with radar lock.

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  5. Re:Complaining about wrong thing here? by radmarshallb · · Score: 5, Informative

    "When President Obama learned of the episode on Monday afternoon, aides said, he, too, was furious. Senior administration officials conveyed the presidentâ(TM)s anger in a meeting with Mr. Caldera on Monday afternoon." Source: NYTimes http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/air-force-one-backup-rattles-new-york-nerve/

  6. Lack of Communication by Knara · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to CNN, the FAA and Air Force informed the NYPD and the NY Mayors office that this was going to happen, but the staff at both didn't think it would be necessary to 1) inform the public, or 2) inform the Mayor himself(!).

    No wonder NYC is a mess :)

    (not sure why the initial version of this was posted anonymously)

  7. Re:We are a bunch by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I hope more people read this. A fighter plane escort means two things:
    - the authorities know the plane is there
    - the decision to shoot it down has not been taken

    All of this means in turn that the situation is considered to be under control.

    I'm worried when I hear fighter jets screaming above my head at full after-burner - it means they're in a hurry. I'm worried when I see a lone jet plane on a path that is clearly not a regular flight path - it means it either is in trouble, or trying to get into trouble.

    But a jet escorted by a fighter plane is not part of any of those scenarios. Unless someone completely fucks up, and then we're right back into the territory of paranoia and irrational risk assessment.

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