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Windows 7's Virtual XP Mode a Support Nightmare?

CWmike writes "Microsoft's decision to let Windows 7 users run Windows XP applications in a virtual machine may have been necessary to convince people to upgrade, but it could also create support nightmares, analysts said today. Gartner analyst Michael Silver outlines the downsides. 'You'll have to support two versions of Windows,' he said. 'Each needs to be secured, antivirused, firewalled and patched. If a company has 10,000 PCs, that's 20,000 instances of Windows.' The other big problem Silver foresees: Making sure the software they run is compatible with Windows 7. 'This is a great Band-Aid, but companies need to heal their applications,' Silver said. 'They'll be doing themselves a disservice if, because of XPM, they're not making sure that all their apps support Windows 7.'"

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  1. Re:Pardon me... by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, it was an actual 68LC040 emulator in software.

    In fact, large chunks of the System were still written in 68040 code for a long time. So new releases of the OS would actually run faster and faster as that code was replaced with native versions.

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  2. Stick your head out of the sand sometime by TheLink · · Score: 5, Informative

    Go ahead stay in the reality distortion field and drink the kool-aid.

    It's NOT the contest that proves it. Just read what the guy says and go investigate to see if what he is saying is true.

    Just see: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2941
    and: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9759132-7.html

    Quote:

    "With my Safari exploit, I put the code into a process and I know exactly where it's going to be. There's no randomization. I know when I jump there, the code is there and I can execute it there. On Windows, the code might show up but I don't know where it is. Even if I get to the code, it's not executable. Those are two hurdles that Macs don't have."

    You don't have to be a genius to figure it out. OSX doesn't have the same protections. It doesn't even have the protections Windows XP SP2 has and that came out 5 years ago.

    If you don't believe me, just get the opinion of any of the top security researchers on the security of OSX compared to XP/Vista.

    The reason why OSX is not exploited as much as windows is it is the equivalent of a house in a small village. Hardly anyone would bother break in even if the door is unlocked.

    There's no point creating a tiny network of zombies. A huge network is where the money is.

    If I were a malware writer I'd be rubbing my hands with glee if OSX's market share goes up.

    Apple makes cool stuff, but they don't make secure stuff.

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  3. Re:Yes but ... by TheLink · · Score: 5, Informative

    And guess who is responsible for the code quality of quicktime? Apple.

    OSX is swiss cheese too. It has dozens of setuid programs. It has no "DEP" - something that Windows XP had 5 years ago with service pack 2.

    It's not just me claiming that. I know others who would say the same thing.

    Both Charlie Miller and "Nils" say OSX is easier to exploit.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/03/mac_os_x_top_target_in_browser.html

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9759132-7.html

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2941

    Quotes:

    "It's getting pretty hard to do a lot of this stuff on Windows Vista and Windows 7," Nils said. "Especially when a lot of people who stayed with [Windows XP] switch to Windows 7 because they didn't want Vista, the bad guys may start to figure out they can more easily exploit these bugs more reliably on a Mac."

    "Mac OS X has some ASLR but not much, and there is no DEP in OS X," Miller said. "My exploit relied on exploit code being in certain spot, and that it would [execute], and in Vista neither of those things would have happened."

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