Second Swedish ISP Starts Scrubbing IP Addresses

Marzubus writes "Tele2, a popular Swedish ISP, has started to remove IP addresses from its logs. This is the second ISP in Sweden to adopt this new privacy protection strategy." We discussed not long ago when another ISP, Bahnhof, started doing the same. Perhaps this is the corporate equivalent of joining the Pirate Party.

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This will likely keep happening

[Jugalator]

It's a competitive advantage, after all. Soon enough, I imagine all major ISP's here will do this as long as there isn't new legislation against it. These are also all very good signs of just how aggressive and poorly thought out the IPRED law in reality was.

Re:This will likely keep happening

[Bios_Hakr]

It also makes pretty good business sense. You never have to spend a few hours chasing backups of logs for investigations. There just isn't anything there for the police to want to look at.

Re:This will likely keep happening

[SausageOfDoom]

Never going to happen in the UK though - it's now a legal requirement that ISPs log all IPs. And all e-mail headers. And soon all web requests. And no doubt keyloggers shortly after that.

And a good thing too! Let's stop those damned terrorists, criminals, paedophiles and other sexual deviants! Living in the UK is awesome - just look how much our government cares about our well-being!

Re:This will likely keep happening

[Jurily]

It also makes pretty good business sense. You never have to spend a few hours chasing backups of logs for investigations. There just isn't anything there for the police to want to look at.

Not having to be a snail for the next life is also a plus.

Actually there are a few more than two.

[ckret]

here you can see a few other ISP's that erases logs.
This behaviour is not a circumvention of the IPPRED law but an enforcement of law of electronic communication that states that customerinformation that is not needed for daily operations must be erased as soon as possible.
This law in itself nullifies the IPRED law.

Incorrect.2

[Meneth]

Tele2 is not the second Swedish ISP to scrub IP-customer records. More like the thirteenth. It's a big ISP, though. I suppose that's why people could make the mistake.

Re:ISPs and law enforcement

[SwedishPenguin]

Oh they will "correct" this here as well soon enough. The data retention directive will be implemented this fall, and all the ISPs will be forced to keep logs for at least 6 months.

Swedes: vote for the Pirate Party in European Parliament election on the 7th of June, early voting begins on the 20th of May
Other EU citizens: vote for whatever party has the most integrity friendly platform.

We're facing a big problem in the EU. Corruption is rampant among our politicians and the eagerness of politicians to control our society's access to information and surveil our activities has never been higher.

Re:Simply Economics

[Anonymous Coward]

Most, if not all, of politics are motivated by economics so I fail to see your point.

Data retention time is also interesting

[Slyswede]

Another interesting aspect in this whole IPRED mess is the amount of time the other ISPs save their IP-address data.

According to the IPRED law it is up to the lower court to order an ISP to turn over the subscriber information, but only after examining the evidence of possible copyright infringement.

This means that if the data is saved for a shorter period than the time it normally takes to investigate an infringement, any order to turn over the data would also eventually fail.

I've heard from at least one ISP that they normally save data for three weeks, so that should be sufficient, unless the courts suddenly decide to start prioritizing these cases. :(