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"Miraculous" Stem Cell Progress Reported In China

destinyland writes "In China's Guangdong Province there's been 'almost miraculous' progress in actually using stem cells to treat diseases such as brain injury, cerebral palsy, ataxia and other optic nerve damage, lower limb ischemia, autism, spinal muscular atrophy, and multiple sclerosis. One Chinese biotech company, Beike, is now building a 21,500 square foot stem cell storage facility and hiring professors from American universities such as Stanford. Two California families even flew their children to China for a cerebral palsy treatment that isn't available in the US. The founder of Beike is so enthusiastic, he says his company is exploring the concept of using stem cells to extend longevity beyond 120 years."

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  1. Re:So...he was a backward fuckwad with limited rea by ArcherB · · Score: 0, Troll

    >The truth is, Bush didn't ban stem cell research. Bush didn't even ban embryonic stem cell research.
    >He only banned federal level funding for it. The States and the private sector were free to do as they pleased.

    I'm so tired of this Bush apologizing.

    The translation is, "He was a backward fuckwad pandering to religious nuts, but hey, at least his reach exceeded his grasp!"

    That's the spirit. Ignore the facts and hurl insults.

    The translation is: "You are hateful bigot who can't accept the idea that some people have opinions that are different than your own. You make yourself hate them rather than even consider that maybe, just maybe, their ideas have merit. You are unable to promote your own ideas with any intelligence, so you rely on belittling those who differ from you in a lame attempt to promote yourself."

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  2. Re:The translation is... by ArcherB · · Score: 0, Troll

    >The translation is: "You are hateful bigot who can't accept the idea that some people have opinions
    > that are different than your own. You make yourself hate them rather than even consider that maybe,
    > just maybe, their ideas have merit. You are unable to promote your own ideas with any intelligence,
    > so you rely on belittling those who differ from you in a lame attempt to promote yourself."

    I have no problem with people who have opinions that are different than my own.

    As long as they aren't based in mysticism and superstition. Those opinions deserve nothing but scorn and laughter.

    Oh, so your problem is with religion then? Does it have to do with lack of provable facts? Well, let's define some words.

    bigotry - intolerance toward those of different creeds or religious affiliations
    bigot - one who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

    Yup, there's your proof. By definition, you are a bigot. Congratulations.

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  3. Re:Thank you. by ArcherB · · Score: 0, Troll

    Sorry you feel that way. I don't know where you are from, but the country I live in values religion so highly that it is listed as the very first guaranteed right. We call the entire list The Bill of Rights and freedom of religion is ranked pretty high. It is listed as the very first right in the very first amendment. It is the number 1 of number 1. I'd like to thing the document that has guided my country for over 200 years and has made us the powerful nation on earth might have some street cred. I also like to think that men who wrote it were unequaled geniuses of their time as well as ours. You see, that document they wrote that protects and respects my religious views is the same one that protects you from my religious views. To ridicule those that value religion, you are rejecting that which preventss them from forcing you into their "hocus pocus sham".

    So, to ridicule religion, you are ridiculing my Bill of Rights. Sorry, but until you found a country that becomes the most powerful in the world while guaranteeing the freedom of not just its citizens, but fights for the rights of people around the world, I'm going to say that are not qualified to criticize these men nor the document they wrote. For that matter, it kinda makes you look like an immature little dumb-ass with absolutely no clue as to what you are talking about. I don't say that as an insult, but as constructive criticism.

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  4. Re:bwhahahahaa by ArcherB · · Score: 0, Troll

    >To ridicule those that value religion, you are rejecting that which
    >preventss them from forcing you into their "hocus pocus sham".

    Crock. Of. Shit. Freedom OF religion also means freedom FROM religion. The Bill of Rights does not enshrine religion, it neuters it, and rightfully so.

    Yes, you have the right to worship whatever you like. Of course I also have the right to point out it's all fairy tales and magic worship.

    First, you are confused. Yes, there is a freedom FROM a GOVERNMENT religion which is where the BoR states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion", but I'm free to practice whatever religion I wish because it says next, "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

    So, yes, the founders of the Bill of Rights thought religion was so important, they mentioned it first. I'd call that enshrining.

    The right that allows you to ridicule religion comes in next in the first amendment under freedom of speech. So, to say that the founders did not "enshrine" religion in the BoR is also saying that freedom so speech is not "enshrined" since the founders thought it important enough to list religion first and second.

    However, the freedom of speech also covers you to look ignorant. When you call religion "fairy tales and magic worship", it proves that you have very little clue as to what religion entails. Most of religion are rules to live by. It sets a standard on how to live. It teaches not to steal, murder, lie, cheat on your spouse or several other things that cause problems between people. It also teaches to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, forgive those that have done you wrong, and other things that make us better people and improve society as a whole.

    Evidently, you don't understand any of that, which makes you ignorant. Maybe you just think that kind acts like feeding the hungry is all fairy tales, which would just make you an asshole. I'll be kind and assume that it's just ignorance on your part. Tomorrow is Sunday. Please wake up early enough to attend a church and talk with the people there before you embarrass yourself further.

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  5. Re:Nope. by ArcherB · · Score: 0, Troll

    Well that's your problem. You refuse to believe in what you do no understand. Many things that was considered magic in the past have since been explained by science. The idea that the Israelites were provided manna in the desert was considered "magic" by many and therefor impossible. Yet studies have shown that the sap from the tamarisk tree easily fits the description of manna and provides a likely explanation. Many of the plagues of Egypt can be explained by natural occurrences. Even the parting of the Red Sea can be explained by a tsunami. That tsunami could have been caused by an volcano that erupting nearby, at the same time and could have caused many of the plagues. These are scientific explanations for what many have perceived as miracles, or "magic" as you put it. Was it a volcano and tsunami? I can't tell you. But I can guarantee that there is science behind what you call "magic".

    Well known scientists like Einstein once claimed that the universe was static and could not have had a beginning. In the name of religion, a priest by the name of Georges Lemaitre worked with recent scientific discoveries to prove that the universe did indeed have a creation. Was the Big Bang "magic"? Two hundred years ago, some would have said the exact same thing you did. The one thing that Georges Lemaitre realized is that God works within the laws of the universe that He created. These universal constants are narrow enough that even the slightest variation of any of them would cause the universe not to exist at all. Is it magic? Read this page and others like for examples of how respected scientists and mathematicians are looking for rational explanations to what you might consider "magic". You don't have to believe it, but you should approach it with an open mind and admit that there is some science behind be belief.

    Just because you don't understand something, doesn't mean that it's "magic" and can not exist. On the flip-side, "God did it" is not a valid explanation for things I don't understand. Galileo said it best:

    "the laws of nature are written by the hand of God in the language of mathematics". --Galileo

    God works within His own laws.

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