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Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 Released, Supports ODF Out of the Box

shutdown -p now writes "On April 28, Microsoft released service pack 2 for Microsoft Office 2007. Among other changes, it includes the earlier-promised support for ODF text documents and spreadsheets, featured prominently on the 'Save As' menu alongside Office Open XML and the legacy Office 97-2007 formats. It is also possible to configure Office applications to use ODF as the default format for new documents. In addition, the service pack also includes 'Save as PDF' out of the box, and better Firefox support by SharePoint."

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  1. Re:Should install MsOffice 2007 by Statecraftsman · · Score: 4, Informative

    We definitely need this AcidTest for ODF rendering. I just ran across this post that highlights a few potential problems in Microsoft's implementation: http://www.archivum.info/comp.os.linux.advocacy/2008-08/msg00757.html

  2. Re:What caused Adobe to back off? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Formerly a proprietary format, PDF was officially released as an open standard on July 1, 2008, and published by the International Organization for Standardization as ISO 32000-1:2008."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdf

  3. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Press alt; it shows a letter for each menu and function. Thus, most functions can activated with a 3 button combination.

    This not only makes every function easy to get to via keyboard, it makes memorizing shortcuts unnecssary. Although I assume eventually these shortcuts would become second nature.

  4. Re:Should install MsOffice 2007 by CSMatt · · Score: 4, Informative
  5. Re:What caused Adobe to back off? by CSMatt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why anyone would throw down hundreds of dollars for Acrobat when they can get the same functionality from other software is beyond me.

  6. Re:What caused Adobe to back off? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Informative? Maybe, but irrelevant. PDF was only ever semi-proprietary. Adobe controlled it, but the spec was freely available and could be implemented by anyone, royalty-free. Adobe's complaint was not that they implemented PDF support, it was that they did something Adobe's software did (convert Word documents to PDF) and bundled it with a product that had an effective monopoly in the market (MS Office). It was an antitrust complaint, not a copyright/patent infringement case.

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  7. OpenDocument support by robmv · · Score: 1, Informative

    Just to clarify, SP2 adds support for OpenDocument Text, not all OpenDocument, no spreadsheets, no presentations, etc. etc. It is a good step, but everyone must know it, if not MS will just say "we support OpenDocument" to all institutions and countries that requires ODF support.

  8. Re:Great by Planesdragon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Perhaps you can explain to me how to do everything in Office 2007 without a mouse

    You're using windows without a mouse? Ok, whatever.

    Press the ALT key. Office 2007 will show you a list of shortcut keys, over every icon visible.

  9. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    What lack of keyboard shortcuts? MS Office 2007 supports every single shortcut that MS Office 2003 did. Even if the menu is no longer there it still respects the old shortcut. Microsoft did this on purpose. You didn't even bother to check, did you?

  10. Re:Embrace... by Cyclops · · Score: 3, Informative

    Kill X, login in the console, rmmod the kernel module, insmod the new one, start X.

    Voit-lá, no reboot for upgrade of graphics card driver.

  11. Re:ODF 1.x? by negated · · Score: 2, Informative

    From: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=953195

    "File formats

    * OpenDocument Format (ODF) support

    SP2 lets you open, edit, and save documents in version 1.1 of the ODF for Word (http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/FX100649251033.aspx) , for Excel (http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel/FX100646951033.aspx) , and for PowerPoint (http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint/FX100648951033.aspx) . Users of these Office programs can now open, edit, and save files in the OpenDocument Text (*.odt), OpenDocument Spreadsheet (*.ods), and OpenDocument Presentations (*.odp) formats."

    -S

  12. Re:Great by alphabetsoup · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its a myth that Office 2007 takes up more UI space than Office 97 or 2003. Office 2007 UI takes up slightly less vertical space than Office 97 out of the box. If the user displays a few toolbars, as most users do, Office 97 consumes far more space than 2007. Here is a post which goes into the detail measurements: http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2006/04/17/577485.aspx

    Anyways, you can always minimize the ribbon.

  13. Re:Great by David+Gerard · · Score: 2, Informative

    A report on Groklaw.

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  14. Re:Should install MsOffice 2007 by noidentity · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://tools.services.openoffice.org/odfvalidator/ Still can't verify that the ODF you saved properly represents what you see on screen.

  15. Re:Great by Anpheus · · Score: 5, Informative

    From Wikipedia:

    "OpenDocument 1.2 is currently being written by the ODF TC. It is likely to include additional accessibility features, metadata enhancements, spreadsheet formula specification based on the OpenFormula work (ODF 1.0 and 1.1 did not specify spreadsheet formulae in detail, leaving many aspects implementation-defined) as well as on some suggestions submitted by the public. Originally OpenDocument 1.2 was expected to become an OASIS standard by October 2007 but later it was expected to become a final draft in May 2008 and an OASIS standard in 2009 and a new ISO/IEC version some months later.[13] However currently there is no final draft of ODF v1.2 yet."

    Short version: you don't deserve to be modded anything better than -1 Flamebait.

  16. Wrong by Quantam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Word SP2 supports OpenDocument Text, Excel supports OpenDocument Spreadsheet, and Powerpoint supports OpenDocument Presentation

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