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Italy May Hold Its Own Pirate Bay Trial

Posted by timothy on from the keeping-up-with-the-johannsens dept.

hyanakin writes with an excerpt from TorrentFreak: "Following the Swedish verdict, Italy is now considering starting its own trial against the people involved with The Pirate Bay. This would be the first criminal prosecution against the Pirate Bay 'founders' outside their home country." Funny thing: almost 20 years ago, CD stores in Germany all seemed to be full of bootleg concert CDs pressed in Italy.

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  1. How... by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How can they be tried in Italy? That doesn't make any sense unless the founders A) Lived in Italy B) Had Itallian bank accounts or other finances C) Did (physical) business in Italy with a physical presence.

    Really, this doesn't make any sense.

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    1. Re:How... by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Thank you, this is exactly what I was thinking.

      My guess is that they believe that because it happens "over the internet" (duh-duh-DUH!) it's an international issue and that they may be able to get them extradited. Which, y'know, is stupid, but then, that's government for you.

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    2. Re:How... by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But that doesn't make any sense either, because then you could get sued for a situation like this:

      A) Create a website that violates some law in one country that is part of the EU, such as distributing Nazi texts which (as far as I know) is illegal in Germany, but legal in some EU nations such as the UK (where they actually have some shell of freedom of speech)

      B) The website is hosted in a legal country such as the UK and all maintainers of it live, work, and have all financial ties in the UK

      C) Germany brings charges against you

      That just doesn't make any sense (not that most governments do), and seems contrary to having independent nation's laws rather then general EU laws.

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  2. Those Bootlegs Were Legal by Telephone+Sanitizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    > Funny thing: almost 20 years ago, CD stores in Germany all
    > seemed to be full of bootleg concert CDs pressed in Italy.

    In fact, it was perfectly legal to record a live concert and sell the recording from Italy if the bootlegger opened a bank account and deposited a royalty for the artist.

    There was even an official stamp issued to those bootleggers who registered with the Italian Authors Society.

  3. Lesson Learned by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While you may be right, its time to take all this back underground.

    What you cant see you cant sue/stop/fight.

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  4. Re:Jurisdiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If you'd listen to Italian TV for a few minutes you'll hear plenty bad about him. Weel of course not from rai 1, but there they always stay on the winning party side.

    rai 3 will always talk bad about him, rete 4 will always be good with him, while canale 5 will avoid the subject if possible.

    on newspapers(which are widely read here) there is a very wide panorama, with party backed newspapers from every party in existence(both the ones in the parliament and the ones which could not get seats there due to minimum votes needed.)

  5. Re:Jurisdiction? by samriel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The servers, AFAIK last, were spread around the world, with lots of them in Egypt and the Netherlands. There are surely more... I don't doubt that there is at least one server in every Eastern European country.

    /serbian pirates ftw?
    //citation needed

  6. Re:Jurisdiction? by rts008 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Okay, I am from the USA, so I know how the RIAA works here...but...

    I understand the $3500/suit you mention, but I do not understand how Italy thinks it has a chance at getting any of this money.
    This is what I was talking about when I said it was a 'me too' stunt.
    All 'fluff, smoke, and mirrors' to further an agenda...I do not know enough about Italian politics to be sure...but I'm just suspicious....

    I truly do not understand the connection of how 'each up-loader' is worth *3500 to the Italian Gov't.
    Is Italy 'bowing down' that hard to the USA?(not meant as a flame-I am truly ignorant here)

    Can 'up-loader' Ip's and logs make a difference if the server is not 'in country'?

    What am I missing here?

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  7. Re:Jurisdiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is plain false! ALL the TVs talks good of the premier, except Rai 3. Rete 4 is totally prone. Amongst the major newspapers there are one that is on the opposition side while the others, that need the support of the public money, hence of the government, to survive, are from neutral to completely ass-licking.

  8. Re:Jurisdiction? by mirkob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the newspapers aren't widely readed in italy.

    and the majority are much aligned with a political party.

    so even who read something read usually a journal already aligned with his ideas...

    rarely berlusca fans read journals not preaching him, and the majority simply see his TV...

    a sad situation of 30 milion+ gullible ignorants...