The Coder Behind the Mortgage Meltdown
axjms writes "New York Magazine has a confessional/abdication from the man who wrote the software that turns mortgages into bonds and those nasty little things called CMOs. An interesting first-person account from a coder whose work reached far beyond what he or anyone could have anticipated."
There is no way in Hades that this topic could possibly be addressed honestly - not at NYMag, nor at
The underlying horror of the demographics at work here - and the galactic insanity of the CRA & the redlining initiatives & the fiduciary disaster at Fannie & Freddie - is just too much for the circuits to handle.
Not to mention - heck, even I can't mention that one.
Makes my off by one errors seem so quaint. Add 12 zeros and soon you're talking about real money.
120 characters isn't enough to explain it.
That is one of the most fantastic explanations ever offered, and by an AC no less.
A more in-depth explanation for those who want more than 2 words:
1. A mortgage broker knows more about mortgages than your typical homeowner, and uses that advantage to sell a bad deal to said homeowner. The reasons it's a bad deal are buried in the fine print that would take a real-estate attorney to sort out (which a typical sub-prime borrower couldn't afford). The mortgage broker promptly collects the commission.
2. The mortgage company that the broker works for builds a security that nobody really understands that effectively hides the bad loan that the broker gave out. They work with the security rating agencies to make sure it has a good rating even if it shouldn't. Once someone buys the security, the mortgage company has its profits and no risks.
In other words, every step of the way the mortgage brokerage has more information than any other party, and uses that to screw over borrowers and investors.
I am officially gone from
Economists actually don't know anything - anything correct - about economic systems. They've been beer-bonging the wrong Kool-Aid and preaching the wrong sermons for a very long time; the entire field of economics has been hijacked by a greedy minority and perverted to their benefit. Climatologists actually understand more about economic systems than economists do, since climate and economics have quite a bit in common in terms of systemic behavior.
That played a large part in this problem. I was eyeing a home from around 2000-2001. Proces were still reasonable. Then the rates dropped to ridiculous lows. Great, right? But then that caused a mad rush on homes, driving the prices to even more ridiculous highs. At that point, your monthly payment became even higher than when the interest rates were higher. At that point I dropped out of the market for a house. Who the hell else didn't see this coming? Who was Alan Greenspan really helping by keeping the rates so low?
A sentence you'll never see on an Internet discussion board: "You know what? You're right."
I was contracting at a mortgage company from Summer 2006 to Summer 2007, working on a model to predict mortgage behavior (and watching the office getting emptier and emptier). A few observations.
Why, in the name of the FSM, did my data have "stated income" as a yes-or-no field? Nobody sane would make a major loan to somebody who couldn't even verify his or her income, unless they had absolutely no concern about whether it would be paid. Nobody sane would purchase such a loan from a broker. There was no federal regulation saying "You have to make loans to indigent liars" that I know of.
We had several projections of housing prices. The number of them that showed any sort of decline? A bit less than one. It wasn't that nobody was talking about a bubble, either.
What I saw was idiotic, short-sighted, greed, laid out in 1s and 0s. This had nothing to do with any sort of pressure, other than for the quick buck right now.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Wired: The Formula That Killed Wall Street
David X. Li formula used "Gaussian copula function" for risk estimation. It greatly oversimplified risk estimation and ignored any nonlinear, topological and whatever nontrivial dependencies, taking into account only single correlation parameter. Formula was applied recursively and the end result was completely divorced from reality.
Nassim Taleb repeatedly predicted these events and made a fortune putting his money where his mouth was.
I'm a Programmer. That's one level above Software Engineer and one level below Engineer.
oh good, my comments still there from the first time i saw the story:
i programmed in some of the same subject matter for several years recently, and much of this strikes me as a very believable tale. ...except it feels history-rewritten so as to remove any negative light from the author. he comes off entirely too saintly-while-surrounded-by-evil, and that makes me wonder what else to believe.
in particular how he made it seem like he just happened to fall into his deal to maintain/integrate/etc the software for its new owner, unpaid for a cut of its sales. that's a daring endeavor you take only when you honestly believe in long-term success, so i don't see "i'm tired and wanna take something easier", i see "all in, show your hands boys" kinda farm-betting. he knew then like he said now that his software could become the standard, shot for and achieved success. but i don't think his waxing philosophical about the potential dangers of that success started only after the trouble.
the contractors building the death star knew the risks of that association, so to speak. (I should explain, this is a meme, and honestly an unfair comparison)
Coders don't design faulty business logic. Coders code what they are told to code.
But the best coders have the guts to point out problems in business logic if they discover any in the design or implementation processes.
the galactic insanity of the CRA
Whether the CRA was a good idea or not might be up for debate, but if "galactic insanity" implies that it was operating at a scale necessary to be a real driver of the crisis, there are significant indications you're wrong.
Consider, for starters, these statistics:
"Federal Reserve Board data show that:
* More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions...
* Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that's being lambasted by conservative critics."
There are a number of other relevant resources (such as those posted elsewhere in this discussion and in my comment history) which also examine the idea that the CRA was a significant cause of the current problems. The data seems to indicate that not only were CRA loans not any significant portion of problematic loans, they're actually turning out better than comparable private loans.
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He was part of a team that wrote some trading application. Confession? Is this a joke? Blaming wall street for this meltdown is like blaming your electrician when the power company stop providing power. All they do is repackage stuff. All the repackaging in the world wouldn't raise home ownership from 20% to 30% in 10 years. This was through policy... Brought to you by your friendly government (which I must be a right-wing nut for questioning, right?). Reminds of a the Jackie Mason joke: "This is the richest company in the history of the world and every year we lose money. That's because your congressman gets paid whether we lose money or not. I say put em on commission..." Honestly though... It's the "ownership society" that created this crisis -- not the middleman they are trying to blame now.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
I don't think this is true.
The general terms of a mortgage are fairly simple, and don't require an attorney to understand.
Things like interest only, balloon, ARM are easy to understand to most everyone, unless they do not have it explained. The mortgage broker misrepresenting is not legal. Not that it matters, because their commission won't cover the damage done (houses losing 20% of their value when mortgaged against 100% of the purchase price).
The real problem is that nobody gave a shit, because if someone couldn't pay their mortgage, it was easy enough for them to sell the house for a profit and get out anyway. The banks didn't care, because they were getting money for nothing lending to people that couldn't afford it. Said people would just sell the house, and make money even.
A guy I work with purchased 3 houses interest only, turned them around in 8 months for a nice profit and purchased 3 more. Now the mortgages have adjusted, and are no longer interest only. He has one rented out now, with the rent being hundreds less than the mortgage payment. He knew what he was doing, and I am willing to bet that it was people like him that caused the crises much more than the un-informed masses.
I would hear a lot of "well if it is too much house, I can always sell it", even if it wasn't purely for profit, and just a nicer house than could be afforded.
I say this as someone who has nothing but benefited from the loser rules of the last 4 years.
They let me get a mortgage there was no way I could pay (using their calculations), I knew I could because I had 2 room-mates lined up for an additional $700/month they didn't consider, but I could easily have wanted to move my family of 4 into the house too. Nobody in the chain of responsibility would have cared, and this with about 1% down (plus 3% sellers assist). Mortgage + Car + Car Insurance left me $340/month to live.
I then went and purchased a house to move into about 6 months ago. My wife and I qualified for the second house, while I still owned the first. The two mortgages combined are within $1000 of our total take-home (best case). Considering the other costs we have to keep alive and employed it was a pretty bad bet to make IMO (and actually by that point people really should have known better).
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
Apparently a lot of people do not know what they are talking about. The people most invested in the system cannot see the flaws and do not want to. The financial jargon is used to obfuscate. Some genius that actually understands it all at the byte and master accounts level, made it very simple for everyone to understand.
Derivatives = Bets
Credit Default Swaps = insurance on bets
Hedge Funds = borrowing of money to gamble with (unregulated and secret also used to manipulate markets)
Taxpayer Bailout = Taxpayers covering the gambling losses for gamblers? (it won't happen without a revolution taking place to correct it)
Reality = Insurance (e.g. AIG) cannot cover failed bets which amount to: USD 206k per person-on-planet.
The number it is based on has grown from USD 1.144 Quadrillion to USD 1.405 Quadrillion, ie, +22% worldwide. The GDP of the entire world is USD 50 trillion. The derivatives "bets" total USD 1,144 trillion which is 22 times the GDP of the whole world. The money 1,144 trillion doesn't really exist in system but only in the terms of a contract, artificial value not validated by economic system participants. It would be inappropriate for the citizens to go into debt as they already have, to cover these contracts. The people that created this catastrophe do not feel the pain of their decisions, but the common folk do. You can read all the rest of this and a bunch more insight into a system that would actually work on http://coinage.me/ Perhaps most ironic was an attempt to build a computer game based on the current economic model, eventually the game / economy always crashed.
The problem isn't education per se. Here in Denmark most people are well educated, but common sense is not on the agenda, while our housing situation isn't as bad as the US, it's still pretty rough for some home owners - the problem is people happily signed the contracts without reading them nor understanding them. If you don't get the numbers you call someone who does, people just blindly trusted the bank.