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External Airbag Designed to Protect Pedestrians

Thanks to researchers at Cranfield University, you don't have to feel bad when you plow into a group of pedestrians who are crossing the street too slowly. They have designed an external airbag that mounts to your hood at the base of the windshield. Research shows that this is the area where a pedestrian's head is most likely to hit in an accident. "Test results indicate that the system works extremely well. When fitted to a demonstrator vehicle not originally designed with pedestrian protection in mind, the results were well inside all current legal criteria for pedestrian protection currently in force in Europe," Roger Hardy of the university's Cranfield Impact Centre said.

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  1. Ohhh! by Dishevel · · Score: 4, Funny

    I really want to bounce off a car with this!

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    1. Re:Ohhh! by davester666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If it uses sensors so the airbags can start being deployed prior to impact, why not add some bags to the front bumper. This may not eliminate crippling leg injures, but it might lessen them...

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  2. Cowcatchers by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Funny

    What we really need are cowcatchers, like on trains, so that the pedestrians don't get stuck under the wheels and jam them. :-)

    1. Re:Cowcatchers by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man, do you know what a pain it is to clean pedestrian off the grille of your car?!?

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  3. ...Not originally designed... by VorpalRodent · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The summary indicates that it works well when applied to a vehicle not originally designed for pedestrian protection. They say this in conjunction with research indicating where a pedestrian's head will hit.

    I'm sorry, but what cars are designed with pedestrian protection in mind in scenarios that would involve striking a pedestrian such that his head would hit my windshield?

    Also, if I'm protecting the pedestrian, do I lose my entire field of view, and end up running down other pedestrians?

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    1. Re:...Not originally designed... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "When fitted to a demonstrator vehicle not originally designed with pedestrian protection in mind, the results were well inside all current legal criteria for pedestrian protection currently in force in Europe"

      Okay, so this airbag was sufficient to meet with pedestrian protection laws... Uh, assuming most cars on the road are compliant with the law, I'm wondering exactly how much protection those laws call for. I'd think pretty much anything that didn't attempt to increase pedestrian danger would be fine. So no spiked grills, buzz saws, axe wheels, reactive armor, pumapults and the like. Since an airbag isn't any of those things (or at least isn't if designed correctly), add one to a car that is street legal and -- ta-da! -- it's still street legal! Woo!

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    2. Re:...Not originally designed... by powerlord · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, it pales in comparison to the #1 advance for "pedestrian protection", DON'T F-ING HIT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!

      Sorry, but the idea that ricocheting a pedestrian from my hood into something else (presumably something without an airbag) seems absurd.

      At BEST its attempting to move liability from one person (the one driving the vehicle), to another (the driver that caused the life altering injury when some hapless pedestrian got thrown like a billiard ball against his car).

      If these come out, I'm just going to wait until the lawsuits start piling in, although since they'll most likely be filed by living people instead of on their behalf, it may take juries a bit to warm up to the idea of placing blame where it really belongs (cue Monty-Python's "You got turned into a newt? ... I got better" routine)

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    3. Re:...Not originally designed... by Swizec · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most cars on the road today are not compliant to the new standards beacause they were changed last year and are only enforced on NEW vehicles. However, I don't believe even all new vehicles have to comply this year already but have a few year's time to adapt.

      The most notable change you can see is that all new European cars (model year 2009) have an extremely high front bumper and are incredibly round on that end making them look somewhat chubby. Most of them are also made so the bonnet can collapse under a pedestrian's weight while also making sure they don't hit the engine or something on it.

      Another very noticable change is that the edge between bonnet and wind screen is no longer a sharp metalic edge on most cars, but has a smooth transition made of plastic.

      I am saying this as an armchair crash test fanatic, not an expert in the field so I might be marginally incorrect on some points.

    4. Re:...Not originally designed... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey man, let's see you design an air bag that isn't actually a spinning axe wheel of death or a mountain lion and see if you think it's that easy. And if you do, then let me know what I'm doing wrong?!

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    5. Re:...Not originally designed... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, it pales in comparison to the #1 advance for "pedestrian protection", DON'T F-ING HIT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!

      Sorry, but the idea that ricocheting a pedestrian from my hood into something else (presumably something without an airbag) seems absurd.

      And I find your suggestion to not plow into pedestrians equally absurd. How else am I going to rack up combo bonus points?

      Also, obviously the goal is to have as many cars as possible with these air bags on them, so the pedestrian won't just bounce off my car into another air-bagless car and die, but instead will be bounced again and again from car to car until harmlessly tossed onto the grass, where they will doubtless jump up and shout in child-like glee "Again! Again!" And I'll get like 10,000 points for a 40-bounce combo. Looks like a win-win scenario to me. Why Luddites like you are against using technology to make life more awesome, I'll never know.

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    6. Re:...Not originally designed... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't they have parks in your city? The drivers would probably start passing the pedestrian along, like a game of vehicular hackey sack, towards the city park. Bonus points if they land in the fountain!

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    7. Re:...Not originally designed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, it pales in comparison to the #1 advance for "pedestrian protection", DON'T F-ING HIT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!

      Are you kidding, that little old lady with the walker was practically begging for it.

    8. Re:...Not originally designed... by MattXBlack · · Score: 3, Funny

      I knew safety standards had been increased, but I never realized armchairs had to be crash tested.

    9. Re:...Not originally designed... by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Also, if I'm protecting the pedestrian, do I lose my entire field of view, and end up running down other pedestrians?"

      I think after you hit the first one you are supposed to stop. Hell you could even try slowing down before you hit him.

    10. Re:...Not originally designed... by robably · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you need to go outside more often.

      What? This is Slashdot, news for nerds. You need to stay inside more often.

    11. Re:...Not originally designed... by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      it may take juries a bit to warm up to the idea of placing blame where it really belongs

      You mean the dumbass who walked into moving traffic???

      Situations certainly exist where the driver bears responsibility for hitting a pedestrian (running a red light, taking a blind corner as fast as the car can handle), but let's not turn this into one of those joke arguments about poor defenseless pedestrians vs the nasty aggressive drivers.

      I'll skip the stories of idiot bimbos on cellphones randomly walking out from between two parked SUVs to cross four-lane roads, and skip right to a real gem that blew me away. Two winters ago, coming home from work, the roads had a nasty layer of ice on them. I crested a hill doing easily 10mph under, and saw a guy talking to his neighbor across the road, from the MIDDLE of my lane. Now, I had a good 600-800ft to him, and he had perhaps a full 30 seconds to get out of the way. I applied the breaks, no effect. So I honked (three brief taps, not blaring the horn at him) to warn him, and the stupid bastard flipped me off and kept standing there chatting!

      I kept honking and eventually nudged my car into the other lane (thank god for no oncoming traffic) to avoid hitting him, and succeeded. But seriously - I swear if I could have stopped, I would have gotten out to beat the shit out of him.

      And yet, had my car hit him, any court in the country would have called it "my" fault for failure to control my car.


      So yeah, not a lot of sympathy when you tell me we where the blame "belongs" for these Darwin-award candidates.

    12. Re:...Not originally designed... by greyhueofdoubt · · Score: 4, Informative

      An airbag is not like a beachball- it's not elastic. In fact, it has to be inelastic for it to work. If in-car airbags acted like you described, they would simply cause the driver's head to bounce back into the headrest, causing massive brain injury. The airbag works by decelerating the head more slowly than the steering wheel would. 40 mph to 0 mpg in a few milliseconds versus a much larger fraction of a second is HUGE in terms of physics.

      The best way to protect a falling egg is to drop it onto something inelastic yet yielding- a pile of goose down would work well, for example. Airbags work on this principle (as do crumple zones): Slow the deceleration, absorb the energy (as opposed to transferring it like a bouncy ball), person lives (usually).

      A pedestrian airbag would work like that- more a pile of leaves than a trampoline. Find a video on youtube or something of the airbags used by stuntmen in movies- they don't bounce, they deflate.

      Hope this helps.

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  4. Car analogy by 77Punker · · Score: 3, Funny

    In the ongoing spirit of computer/car comparisons, I suggest we install an airbag on computers to deploy when inept users approach in the hope of repelling them.

    Actually, maybe I'll just put one of these on the entrance to my cubicle to keep the salesmen away.

  5. Is this really a good idea? by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I say we mount spikes on the grills of our vehicles, so pedestrians will know to get the hell out of our way! Like most attempts to coddle the clueless, won't widespread adoption of this just result in even more careless pedestrians? Besides which, when I point my vehicle at someone and accelerate, I wanna make sure they die, not get thrown safely clear and live to sue me. Besides which, some people would never buy a car with this feature.

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    1. Re:Is this really a good idea? by vertinox · · Score: 3, Funny

      Like most attempts to coddle the clueless, won't widespread adoption of this just result in even more careless pedestrians?

      Yeah, those damn pedestrians keep walking on that sidewalk I use for my shortcuts!

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  6. Re:Ok ? by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just put a cowcatcher on SUVs.

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  7. Re:Ok ? by PotatoFarmer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Note that this story is coming out of the UK, not the US. The majority of the car-driving world drives smaller vehicles.

  8. Would you pay extra for this? by wjousts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I mean, if I got hit by a car, I might appreciate that they'd paid extra for it, but since I'm not likely to hit myself with my car (unless my wife tries to run me down), why would I pay extra?

    Unless this is mandated, it won't catch on.

  9. Re:Ok ? by Moryath · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem is, impacts are not predictable.

    The "most likely spot" to hit, is actually depending on the following factors:
    - Speed of collision
    - Braking/coasting/accelerating (braking typically causes a vehicle's nose to dip, accelerating causes it to rise)
    - Height of the pedestrian in relation to the height of the vehicle's front bumper/grille.
    - Angle of collision (pedestrian motion will be different if hit head-on, as opposed to someone trying to whip around a right-hand turn and blindsiding someone who's crossing properly; angle also changes if you're not at a right-angle intersection)

    The other problem is, does this truly cushion the blow, taking the energy into the crashbag and causing the pedestrian to be more likely to remain on the stopped vehicle, or is it more elastic, imparting acceleration back into the poor pedestrian in time for them to slide off the car - now accelerated to a good 15-20mph or higher - and then hit their head on the cement?

     

  10. Re:Great, no more worries about my car... by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny

    he might die permanently Yeah, I hate it when they just die temporarily... damn zombies!

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  11. Speed Racer Mach 5 Rotating Saws . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    . . . button "C" on the cartoon Speed Racer's original Mach 5 activated rotating saws at the front, that were able to clear the way of *anything*.

    We might need to adjust the regulations for pedestrian protection for this to be offered as standard equipment.

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  12. Dads... by tool462 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Lock up your daughters! A pillow on the hood of the car? As if they needed any MORE encouragement...

  13. Awesome, but one concern by Pinckney · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is seriously awesome. I applaud the good work these researchers are doing. However, this line caught my eye:

    The system uses radar and infrared technology to "pre-detect" a collision and inflates quickly enough to cushion the impact, said Roger Hardy of the university's Cranfield Impact Centre.

    It seems possible that such a sensor could be duped with false input on the proper frequencies, causing the bag to deploy. This would likely be a malicious and expensive prank, as well as obstructing the drivers view. Of course, it would require technical expertise, putting it out of reach of most pranksters.

  14. Iron Spike by Bigbutt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What I really want is an iron spike in the center of the steering wheel. Then the people who should be driving instead of [pick the distraction] would actually pay attention to the task at hand.

    [John]

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  15. Zombies? by rleibman · · Score: 3, Funny

    In any scary movie when the good guys get on the car and then try to mow down the bad guys with the car they have some measure of success. With this external airbag I'm not sure this is going to work very well... We must provide more anti-zombie (and anti-raptor) features in cars. I mean... give me a car advertised as "20% more likely to survive a zombie attack" and I'm right there.

  16. Re:Ok ? by Sam36 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sir how dare you. Everyday I worry about my unintelligent 16 year old daughter driving. I owed it to myself to make sure that she has the biggest vehicle that I can afford so that she can stay safe on the road. We all have feelings sir. And you sir are a bigot. And probably a republican too since you like to tell people how to live. Communist.