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Debian Switching From Glibc To Eglibc
ceswiedler writes "Aurelien Jarno has just uploaded a fork of glibc called eglibc, which is targeted at embedded systems and is source- and binary-compatible with glibc. It has a few nice improvements over glibc, but the primary motivation seems to be that it's a 'more friendly upstream project' than glibc. Glibc's maintainer, Ulrich Drepper, has had a contentious relationship with Debian's project leadership; in 2007 the Debian Project Leader sent an email criticizing Drepper for refusing to fix a bug on glibc on the ARM architecture because in Drepper's words it was 'for the sole benefit of this embedded crap.'"
Mod me down, boys.
My work here is dung.
I would hate the embedded version's maintainer to not want to fix a bug that was simply for 'for the sole benefit of this desktop crap.'
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
Ulrich, TuomoV and Joerg Schilling.
http://rocknerd.co.uk
Because uClibc brings us one step closer to Cthulhulibc.
That which lies dead but dreaming must not be awoken, especially on embedded devices.
"Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
Be nice, now, Cthulhu has excellent standby performance. I don't see any laptops that can stay in S3 for untold aeons before the age of man.
Is that you Joerg?
Seems pretty fishy to me.
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Sadly, nobody really gives a shit about Linux binary compatibility.
BSD does.
Does he have 6 fingers on his left hand?
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Ulrich, TuomoV and Joerg Schilling.
Get Dan Bernstein in that match and you could sell it on pay-per-view.
That is not dead which can ACPI, and with strange ions charge is stored on Li.
[To be posted tomorrow, probably]
The Debian project has dropped the use of the GNU project's glibc C library, substituting the eglibc fork, as glibc maintainer Ulrich Drepper refused patches or bug reports for several architectures Debian relied on.
"Any change will negatively impact well designed architectures for the sole benefit of this embedded crap," said Drepper. "Famously good architectures like x86. Can you believe, these people wanted their C library to work in systems with shells other than bash! These people must think they're signing my pay check."
Drepper has, in retaliation, announced his own fork of Debian. It will be created in cooperation with Joerg Schilling and Tuomo Valkonen and be based on OpenSolaris with Ion running on XFree86 as the standard window manager. "Keith Packard ruined X," said Valkonen. The standard file system will be ext4, given its proven ability to cause data loss in user software the maintainers consider ill-written.
The project will be licensed under both the intersection and union of the GPL, LGPL, CDDL, MIT and the thing TuomoV wrote for Ion. This is not anticipated to be a problem in practice with real-life users, at least not until one exists.
"YOU!" said David Dawes of XFree86. "YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO THEM, HAVEN'T YOU! YOU'RE CONSPIRING WITH THEM! THOSE GUYS! THEY STOLE IT ALL! THEY PUT A RADIO IN MY HEAD! LINUX/BSD WEENIES! I'LL SHOW 'EM! HELL YES!" "That means he's onside with us," said Valkonen. "Dave's been a bit terse since he finally lost it trying to fix his own broken modeline."
http://rocknerd.co.uk
Hans Reiser death match... Ahhh shit, probably still too soon for that one.
He has pissed off practically everybody in the FOSS world at least once.
Good riddance.
Because the FOSS world is full of well balanced individuals who would never get unreasonably pissed off at the drop of a hat.
At least Drepper wasn't being koi about it.
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Seems pretty fishy to me.
I dunno, I think he has every right to be worried about how his cod scales.
Crumb's Corollary: Never bring a knife to a bun fight.
Responding with "you don't write my paycheck" makes him an asshole, pure and simple.
Yep, and the comment "Paid $1 via Paypal. Please fix" was my favorite response!
Nah, he's just thinking about Sturgeon's Law. Ninety percent of everything is crab.
The Hacker's Guide To The Kernel: Don't panic()!
What are you going to do, sterilize us? Fat lot of good that would do.
I,m surprised that this isn't quoted by Microsoft as a "typical" example of cooperative open-source development.
So it shouldn't have been a problem to apply it to glibc then.
I tried to up mod but didn't have enough memory
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for the sole benefit of this embedded crap?
Discussion and argument means explaining yourself. You didn't do that. You just contradicted me.
>> I'll immediately walk away from glibc...
Promises, promises.
I am very small, utmostly microscopic.