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New Irish Internet Tax?

MarkDennehy writes "The Broadcasting Bill 2009 (currently in the last stages of becoming the Broadcasting Act 2009 and then being commenced into law in Ireland) has thrown up a rather unpleasant little nugget for broadband users in Ireland. It now defines a television set as being an electronic apparatus able to receive TV signals or 'any software or assembly comprising such apparatus' which would mean that even if you haven't got a television set, even if you don't watch streaming content from RTE.ie (the state broadcaster's website), you'd still have to pay 160 euro a year for a television license for your iPhone, or netbook, or laptop or desktop if you have fixed or mobile broadband."

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  1. Learn to read your own Bills by Wild+Wizard · · Score: 5, Informative
    The bill in Question Page 12

    "broadcasting service" means a service which comprises a compilation of programme material of any description and which is transmitted, relayed or distributed by means of an electronic communications network, directly or indirectly for simultaneous or near- 20 simultaneous reception by the general public, whether that material is actually received or not, and where the programmes are provided in a pre-scheduled and linear order, but does not include:

    (a) a service provided for viewing in a non-linear manner where each viewer chooses a programme from a cata- 25 logue of programmes, or

    (b) other audio and audiovisual services provided by way of the Internet;

  2. Re:Ok I'll Bite... by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because when I buy gas to run my lawnmower, I'm clearly damaging the roads.

    You can buy gasoline for those applications where they are not used for the road. It is dyed (taxed gasoline is undyed, so they can do a quick tank check) and farmers buy it all the time for their tractors.

    At least that's how it used to be.

  3. Re:Ok I'll Bite... by Malc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your TV would have to be a monitor with no ability to tune in to a signal before you could argue exemption for TV licenses, at least in the UK, and Ireland sounds like it has a similar system. Owning a TV and claiming it's not connected to an aerial/cable/satellite/etc is not sufficient. It has been this way for decades. So really, this is just the same: if you have an internet connection, you have the ability to tune in.

    160 euros is considerably less than what I used to pay for basic cable in Canada. Having 10 times as many channels gave me close to zero times more content to watch. Speaking again for the UK, the BBC doesn't have to pander to advertisers and makes the viewing audience their primary customer. This raises the standard of TV across the board, and it's no wonder commercial broadcasters like Sky hate it as they have to spend more than they otherwise would.

  4. This has long been the case in Switzerland by ivec · · Score: 4, Informative

    An internet-connected multimedia computer (pretty much anything nowadays) counts as a TV+radio set.
    Which means that even if you do not have any other apparatus (no TV...), you have to pay quarterly fee of CHF 115.50 - about 300 Euros per year.

    And yes, this is to sponsor contents and broadcasts from the Swiss television and radio stations.

    Allows us to have less advertisement time than in the USA, and to have some "quality programs" that are not always maket-/audience-driven.

    Not always a bad thing... like all taxes ... although one might disagree with how the money is used.