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Eidos Announces Thief 4

An anonymous reader tips news that Eidos Montreal has confirmed recent speculation by announcing the development of a new Thief game. They've set up a website, but the project is still in its early stages, and details are scarce. In an interview with IncGamers, Eidos' Stéphane D'Astous said, "We're keeping our ear very close to the ground. As you may have noticed, we now have a forum up and running for Thief 4, and I said to my guys 'I really want to have a forum at the very early stages,' because I want people to have a medium with which they can express their wishes, their expectations, and what they would like and not like to happen with the next Thief. Obviously we've started work, but it's always very important for the developers to be close to the community. We're listening to these people because they are very hardcore fans, and we want to bring the Thief 4 franchise to a new level, so the challenges are huge!"

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  1. Re-make Thief 2 by the_raptor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All they have to do for huge success if make it nearly exactly like Thief 2. I loved Thief 3 but the lack of huge sprawling levels with many hidden passage ways really hurt the game.

    As to the story I hope they make it a prequel or otherwise not have Garret as the main character. The whole Thief mythos was pretty much played out at the end of Thief 3 and a continuation would just feel tacked on (Thief 1 & 2 heavily explored the Pagans and the Hammerites, Thief 3 basically removed the Keepers).

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    1. Re:Re-make Thief 2 by pnuema · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then I humbly submit that you and your friends should stay away from the box with the blinking lights. Computers are probably too much for you.

  2. If they want inspiration by RsG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Look to Thief 2. 3 was something of a letdown; 1 was still a new idea (and therefor somewhat unrefined). 2 was easily the zenith of the series to date.

    What was missing from 3? Large open levels, multiple solutions to each problem, and the varied mission objectives. Thief 3 at least got the sneak, stab and sap aspect of the game right, to its credit, and they included the requisite gadgets and arrows. As long as these things remain for 4, the game will be, at a minimum, adequate; done right it can be something more.

    One of the things all three games got right was story. Atmosphere, character, plot and background are the series strong points, so they need a decent writer on staff (one familiar with the previous games). For the best of the series atmosphere, look to the Shaleridge Cradle section in Thief 3.

    Final detail. Garret, whatever else he is, is one of the game's selling points. There is something to be said for a cynical misanthropic kleptomaniac with a bludgeoning tool and bills to pay. Keep those aspects of his character, and you'll go far; the last thing anyone wants to see is the writers trying to turn him into anything "better" than he is.

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    1. Re:If they want inspiration by Yuioup · · Score: 5, Informative

      The reason why Thief 3 didn't have large open levels had to do with the memory limitation of the original xbox. It couldn't handle large levels in de Unreal Engine, so the devs had to compromise and make the levels small.

      AFAIK the xbox 360/PS3 (or whatever new machine the new thief is going to run on) can handle large levels so ...

      Y

    2. Re:If they want inspiration by dunkelfalke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And that is also one of the main reason why Deus Ex 2 sucked. They basically made the game for the console only and just added the PC executable. The result: tiny levels, dumbed down story, dumbed down weapon system, awful graphics.

      Guess what? It was the same game studio, the same developer team and the same publisher. No wonder the mistakes were the same.

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  3. Thief by DreamsAreOkToo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fantastic! I love Thief, it's my favorite video game of all time.

    However... they ended the series. Not only that, but they kind of butchered their whole attempt at Thief 3. If they want a good new game...

    *Item scarcity. 1 & 2 never gave you 30 fire arrows to play with...
    *Uninterrupted whole levels. 1 & 2 never had loading zones within a level.
    *Complete outdoor areas. 1 & 2 were not set up like dungeons. They were *real* buildings.
    *Rooftops.

    I could say more, but I'll spare you. :)

    1. Re:Thief by sammyF70 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      that was a ~problem~ ??
      I thought the fact that you were a wimp in hand to hand non-stealthy combat was the main point of the game. Otherwise you could just have played Splinter Cell. This might have solved your second problem with the Thief Serie too : there were too many ways to finish the levels.

      Keep the hero a wimp, make the levels as ~open~ as can be with multiple entrances and no forced way of finishing a level or pass an obstacle (see the latest Tomb Raider or Prince of Perversia installments for how NOT to do it), don't include a sidekick, especially if that sidekick is supposed to save you everytime you might have died (hell.. ALLOW for failure. you know, the old "YOU'RE DEAD, GAME OVER" concept that seems to be vanishing out of most games lately), and you'll have a great game on your hands.

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  4. New petition for T1&2 source release,please mo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Thief fan community has been trying to get the source to Thief 1 & 2 released for several years but with little success - as a consequence of the bankruptcy of the original developer, it has been hard to even find out who might have it let alone be in a position to release it. However, recently there has been a glimmer of hope since one developer seems to have information about it but permission is still needed, which is why a new petition has been started. We want to improve the engine and enable it to run on modern systems so please slashdot the release petition:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/ThiefSrc/

    Note: This is not the same petition as before but a new one. So even if you have signed the old one, please sign this too.

  5. Re:Thi4f by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Informative
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