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Can Cable Companies Store Shows For Us?

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "Last August I reported that the US Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit had defeated the MPAA's attempt to label as copyright infringement a cable operator's storing video for later reuse at the request of its subscribers, in Cartoon Networks v. CSC Holdings. The MPAA has petitioned the US Supreme Court to review that holding. According to a recent interview with Gigi Sohn of Public Knowledge, the High Court has not yet decided whether to grant the MPAA's petition seeking review. What I found odd about the 2nd Circuit decision (PDF) is that (a) although 'fair use' was the most logical defense to be employed in view of the Supreme Court's holding in SONY Betamax, upholding a VCR's 'time shifting' of a broadcast television show as a 'fair use,' the defendant in Cartoon Networks has stipulated to waive 'fair use,' and (b) although the easier legal theory for plaintiff to prove would have been secondary, rather than primary, copyright infringement (i.e. Cablevision's encouraging and inducing its customers to make unauthorized copies), the MPAA has stipulated to waive that line of attack. I.e. neither plaintiffs nor defendants seized the 'low hanging fruit.' In her interview, Ms. Sohn discusses the fair use defense, but I'm not sure why she does, since as I recall the defendant has waived it."

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  1. Re:Amicus curiae by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wonder what would have happened if someone had filed an Amicus curiae in this case stating either (or both) of the low hanging fruit defenses.

    That would be out of the question. If the parties stipulated to waive certain issues, an amicus could not re-inject it.

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  2. My 'writings' on the subject by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    By the way, here's an article I wrote for the Journal of Internet Law, which discusses, at page 19, the main issue in the Cartoon Networks case which is "When is a copy transitory?" And here's an editorial comment I wrote for my blog after learning of the Cartoon Networks decision.

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  3. Re:This is why I have ~10 VCRs by LordKazan · · Score: 4, Informative
    I was going to moderate this thread, but the egregiously wrong information in your post made me stop and comment.

    And how well do analog capture cards work when folks like the MPAA turn-on the "don't record" flag? Not at all

    WRONG. The "Broadcast Flag" was never instituted - it is a purely optional (and almost universally ignored by non-cable-company-hardware) standard. Furthermore it was digital only - so all your NTSC adapters that work with cable continue to work fine. Second no ATSC/QAM tuner i've ever seen even offered support for this hardly-implemented non-mandated anti-fair-use idea.

    My mythBox is about the size of two VCRs, has 1 TB of storage, is attached to my 100base ethernet, I can manage my recordings over the web. I can use Hulu on it. I could (and might) install Boxee (i'd prefer to use mythVodka if they ever get that plugin working well). And has numerous other abilities that your two VCRs just cannot do.... MAME anyone?

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  4. Re:tortured analysis by kilgortrout · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to the Second Circuit's opinion(yes, I did read it), this is not a transmission issue per se. The time shifted program was clearly transmitted within the meaning of the Copyright Act; that was not disputed. The issue is whether the that transmission was to the public as is required by the relevant provision of the Copyright Act at issue in this case. Considering the technology used by the defendant, the Court held that it was not a public transmission relying heavily on the fact that the program is recorded at the customer's direction and the customer's requested program is encoded on the server so only the customer's cable box can retrieve it. So the scenarios you spin would all seem permitted by this holding as there is no transmission to the public in any of them that I can see.

  5. Re:Fair use by russotto · · Score: 4, Informative

    Perhaps they've colluded in order to get the courts to arrive at a decision that is anti-consumer.

    If so, they've done a pretty poor job. The circuit court decision is pretty good

    1) It rejects the notion that buffering a work necessarily infringes on the reproduction right. (that doctrine would make playing most digital media a reproduction, giving legal teeth to playback restrictions)
    2) It rejects (following Netcom) direct liability for the operator of a system which makes copies automatically at the request of someone else.
    3) It rejects broad readings of the "public performance" clause which says that all commercial performances are public, and that multiple performances of the a work to individuals, even if based off different copies of the same work, constitute public performance. (Remember the claims that Kindle text-to-speech constitutes public performance? This decision cuts the legs out from most such arguments)