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When Does It Become OK To Make Games About a War?

The cancellation of Six Days in Fallujah seems to have stirred up almost as much debate as its original announcement. Given the popularity of World War II games, it seems clear that the main concern about a game focusing on modern war events relates to how recently they happened. Kotaku takes a look at some of the obstacles such a game would need to overcome to achieve broad acceptance. "When approaching a game that realistically depicts a modern combat situation, one criticism that often arises is the subject of fun. Can a realistic military shooter be fun? According to Ian Bogost, that's the wrong question to ask. 'We use the word fun as a placeholder, when we don't even really know what we mean when we look for some sort of enjoyment in a serious experience,' he said. Fun and entertainment aren't mutually exclusive, especially when it comes to entertainment based on real-world military conflicts. As Bogost explains, fun isn't the key word in this situation. 'It may not be possible to make a realistic war game that is fun — war is not fun — but it is possible to create an experience that is informative, appealing, and startling in a positive way.'"

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  1. Re:Not even going to RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    When has democracy been anything other than the will of the majority?

    Every time the winning candidate does not get 50% of ALL eligible voters. Not voting is essentially the same as "none of the above".

    Totally and completely incorrect. Not voting is saying "I don't care."

  2. "Liberal" minds and their bubbles by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    ur question uncomfortable in the least -- as modern interpretations of Islam (as opposed to those promoted by extremists) do not lead to a fully integrated war effort, and indeed, we do not see such efforts in practice . If the civilian population of Iraq were fully aligned against us, for instance, there would

    No, there are merely extermination squads and such more. I mean you can deny stuff, "no agression in sight", like a total baboon all you want, but no Egyptian copt will believe you. No Jordanian Jew will believe you, not a single Christian Somali will agree with you.

    In fact not even sufi's in Algeria, who share 99% of their ideology with "mainstram" islam (you call this "those promoted by extremists"), will believe that there isn't an integrated war effort to exterminate them.

    Your "tolerance and compassion" has a long history, and is aptly described by this poem. And yet you pretend it is *so* much nobler than that, and don't talk about how the actions inspired by your "liberalism" are *exactly* the same as those cowardice would inspire. That, of course, is a mere coincidence that cannot be discussed.

    Btw, I wonder. The prophet muhammad killed over 12000 people. Some because they were Jews, some because they were "infidels", some because they had stuff he wanted to steal. He also fucked a 9 year old girl against her will (she was sold to him in trade for a position in his army). These are the things muslims believe, including of course the motivations of this massacring prophet, and as they are written down very clearly for hundreds of years, are not open for discussion.

    Tell me, would such behavior be considered extremist by you ? And then ask yourself the simple question : is the behavior of this guy ... what exactly is the core of islam ? How is a muslim supposed to behave according to islam ?

    How do you define "moderate" islam ? I wonder since requiring any measure of moderation would exclude the very core of the islamic ideology as an extremist nutbag.

    Would you require a moderate muslim not to kill in the name of religion ? That would exclude mohamed. Would you require a moderate muslim not to commit paedophilic rape ? That would exclude mohamed. Would you require a moderate muslim not to steal or fight "in the name of allah" ? That would exclude mohamed.

    How exactly will you explain this to muslims (until quite recently known as mohameddans) ?

    The liberal mind and the fight for the bubble isolating them from reality.

    Btw : how do you defend yourself being "liberal", a word which means freedom ? After all you're defending a totalitarian ideology that's killing off dissenters. You really can't get any more illiberal than that.