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Biden Reveals Location of Secret VP Bunker

Hugh Pickens writes "Fox News reports that 'Vice President Joe Biden, well-known for his verbal gaffes, may have finally outdone himself, divulging potentially classified information meant to save the life of a sitting vice president.' According to the report, while recently attending the Gridiron Club dinner in Washington, an annual event where powerful politicians and media elite get a chance to cozy up to one another, Biden told his dinnermates about the existence of a secret bunker under the old US Naval Observatory, which is now the home of the vice president. Although earlier reports had placed the Vice-Presidential hide-out in a highly secure complex of buildings inside Raven Rock Mountain near Blue Ridge Summit, Pennsylvania, Fox News reports that the Naval Observatory bunker is believed to be the secure, undisclosed location former Vice President Dick Cheney remained under protection in secret after the 9/11 attacks. According to the report, Biden 'said a young naval officer giving him a tour of the residence showed him the hideaway, which is behind a massive steel door secured by an elaborate lock with a narrow connecting hallway lined with shelves filled with communications equipment.' According to Eleanor Clift, Newsweek magazine's Washington contributing editor 'the officer explained that when Cheney was in lock down, this was where his most trusted aides were stationed, an image that Biden conveyed in a way that suggested we shouldn't be surprised that the policies that emerged were off the wall.' In December 2002, neighbors complained of loud construction work being done at the Naval Observatory, which has been used as a residence by vice presidents since 1974. The upset neighbors were sent a letter by the observatory's superintendent, calling the work 'sensitive in nature' and 'classified' and that it was urgent it be completed on a highly accelerated schedule."

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  1. Yeah, real big secret by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like one of those open secrets like "When did the shuttle launch?"

    "Sorry, it's carrying a classified military payload and we cannot comment on it."

    "I heard a loud rumble at 2pm and saw a pillar of fire rising from the Cape. Was that the shuttle?"

    "We can neither confirm nor deny."

    "Then I'll post it on the internet."

    "ZOMG!!!! Teh tarrists know everything now! Throw this man in prison!"

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    1. Re:Yeah, real big secret by shaka999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't have discussed it at all.

      I'm wondering when he'll give away something that actually matters.

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    2. Re:Yeah, real big secret by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You mean kind of like exposing the identity of an active duty undercover CIA agent? He's got a long way to go before he can top that one.

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    3. Re:Yeah, real big secret by jgtg32a · · Score: 5, Funny

      Granted he didn't give anything useful away. I figured the only reason anyone cared is because Biden is a senile old man and its always fun to hear them say things they aren't suppose to.

    4. Re:Yeah, real big secret by Lensman · · Score: 5, Informative

      Scooter was charged, and convicted... He just got his sentence commuted by Bush (Heck of a job Scootie)

    5. Re:Yeah, real big secret by moeinvt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Fitzgerald indicted Libby on five counts: one count of obstruction of justice two counts of making false statements when interviewed by agents of the FBI, and two counts of perjury in his testimony before the grand jury."

      I always wondered why it wasn't a crime to reveal the identity of an undercover CIA agent on active duty. If it IS a crime, why wasn't Libby or anyone else ever charged with that offense?

    6. Re:Yeah, real big secret by je+ne+sais+quoi · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Those things are all important, but even though she was currently working at Langley, she was still considered as an undercover operative. From the wiki I linked to above:

      On March 16, 2007, at these hearings about the disclosure, Waxman read a statement about Plame's CIA career that had been cleared by CIA director Gen. Michael V. Hayden and the CIA, stating that she was undercover and that her employment status with the CIA was classified information prohibited from disclosure under Executive Order 12958.

      Note that at the time she was exposed, she was still considered an undercover operative. And here's another source:

      ...whether administration officials had illegally disclosed the name of an undercover C.I.A. officer.

      She was still active duty, she could have gone undercover when a new assignment came up, and Cheney and Co. leaked her name anyway to the press for political purposes. And yet somehow my comment above is getting flamebait and troll mods for pointing this out. The words "double standards" come to mind. When Republicans lie and cheat and steal, it's for our protection, when Democrats do it, it's because they're traitorous liberals who hate america. Hypocrisy.

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    7. Re:Yeah, real big secret by _KiTA_ · · Score: 5, Informative

      Did you bother reading your citation?

      It convicted Libby on four of the five counts against him: two counts of perjury, one count of obstruction of justice in a grand jury investigation, and one of the two counts of making false statements to federal investigators.

      All the convictions were a la Martha Stewart (giving false information during an investigation). Not for some "crime" that was never established...

      The crime wasn't established because Libby screwed with the investigation. That was the entire point of the matter. Did you not pay any attention to Patrick Fitzgerald's findings? Or are you really trying to spout off talking points that were discredited hours after they came out?

    8. Re:Yeah, real big secret by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      So let me get this straight...

      The "Undisclosed Location" where we hide the Vice President in times of national emergency when we fear for their safety and the line of succession to lead the nation...

      is underneath the "Disclosed Location" where the Vice Presidents lived since the 70s??

      That'd be like Batman hiding his Secret Bat Lair underneath Wayne Manor, if Batman had already fully disclosed that Batman is Bruce Wayne.

      I mean I guess it's one of those "They'd never think to look for him there!" just-crazy-enough-to-work kinds of plans... Or is it just-crazy-enough-to-fail-hilariously?

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    9. Re:Yeah, real big secret by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, yeah, and Al Capone wasn't really a mobster, he merely failed to disclose certain things on his tax returns that may or may not have had anything to do with crime, we can't really say.

      What part of "Libbie was convicted of perjury," as in convicted of lying to conceal the truth, makes you think the truth got out?

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    10. Re:Yeah, real big secret by SwordsmanLuke · · Score: 5, Funny

      And it would have made great television!

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  2. Always a source of amusment by m0s3m8n · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ahh, the Dem. version of Dan Quayle.

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    1. Re:Always a source of amusment by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's assasination insurance.

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    2. Re:Always a source of amusment by JamesP · · Score: 5, Funny

      So:

      Tomato - Tomatoes
      Potato - Potatoes
      Oh No! - Oh Noes!

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    3. Re:Always a source of amusment by _KiTA_ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just remember: any self-respecting king has to have a court jester. Obama's got Biden, Bush 41 had Quayle, and Cheney had Bush 43.

      Obama is a court jestor. You can watch his teleprompter ping pong, count the urrr's and ummm's, watch him completely lose the ability to talk when the teleprompters go out, etc.

      No, that would be Bush. Obama is a professional orator (psst, that means he's dun got trainin' in how to speachify). The whole teleprompter thing is the Republicans attempting to attack people on their strengths. They've done this for decades now.

      Obama's a phenomenal speaker, the Republicans have jack and crap for charisma this generation. So, attack him on that, make him look like he's "cheating" or really NOT a good speaker, and hope the public are willing to believe your talking points over their lying eyes.

      Fortunately they're so far out in the wilderness now (they're even attacking Obama's little dog, too) that this kinda thing isn't working. People are tired of National Enquirer style politics.

  3. Re:So... by Loko+Draucarn · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's the Vice President of the United States.

    Surely they can spring for an actual trombonist.

  4. Huh? by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Somehow it's a major gaffe and security lapse to let on that there's a secure bunker under the official residence of the Vice President? I think if you'd asked me if there was one before reading this story, I'd just have assumed so.

    Sorry, this is making a story out of basically nothing. I think Biden's kind of a putz sometimes, but this is just kinda bullshitty.

    1. Re:Huh? by ceejayoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, what next... revealing the existence of a secret bunker under the White House?!

  5. Title title is wrong by mikemulvaney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It should read, "Biden reveals location of Vice President's House". I lived in DC for a long time, and I'm pretty sure every one there knows where the Vice President lives.

    This is the worst article I've seen on slashdot in a long time. Not only is the content nonsensical, most of the submission is copied directly from the foxnews "article", but it doesn't have quotes around the copied text.

    1. Re:Title title is wrong by Keebler71 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except the article says "old Naval Observatory" which is about 2 miles from the new Naval Observatory where the VP lives.

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  6. Stupid article by DnemoniX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Excuse me, but it isn't a secret when EVERYONE already knows guys. If you didn't know, you must have missed the news regarding all of the construction at the house when Dick was in residence. All of the neighbors complaining about the round the clock heavy equipment use making the ground shake. That is when everyone was saying that they were probably expanding/renovating the bunker under the house.

    But hey, keep the non-news coming.

  7. Open Secret is right by gfineman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Open secret is right. I live about three quarters of a mile from the Naval Observatory and the government had to pay for damage, caused by the blasting, to the foundations of nearby residences (including at least one embassy). The local community governmental organization gathered and disseminated the procedures for getting such payments. Why is this considered news and even in Slashdot?

  8. Re:So? by thesazi · · Score: 5, Informative
  9. You want to know where this stuff is? by RingDev · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ask the pizza delivery drivers.

    No joke, I was assigned to a tactical response unit while I was in the Marine Corps. I can't discuss much of the specifics, but we would get locked up in a highly secure facility just out side of Washington in case of an "emergency". The existence of the facility at the time was considered top secret.

    Unfortunately, the local staff would often order out for food, and have it delivered.

    So the secret wasn't all that secret, and is even less so now, seeing as how /. is posting about it.

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  10. Re:Semper Infidelis by RingDev · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I ate that apple. Some of the best and worst times of my life. Some of the best and worst of society are contained in there.

    Now, what exactly did I give away? That I was assigned to a unit? That we would be stationed at a facility? That's hardly telling anything of merit.

    The facility had been (when I was in) top secret. While I was in the Corps, I was aware of civilian delivers to the facility. Since I have left active duty, I have learned that the facility I would have been working at has been declassified.

    zOMG, string me up like a traitor for leaking vague references to a facility that is no longer top secret and has had it's location plastered on the front page of /.

    I tell ya what, go down to your local recruiter and join up. You appear to hold Marines in quite high regard, so why not be all you can be? I can assure you, surviving even just a 4 year tour will be far more rewarding to your life than any amount of keyboard jockeying.

    -Rick

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  11. Re:Real Tragedy: Black Racism Against non-Blacks by AxemRed · · Score: 5, Informative

    If African-Americans were not racist, then at most 65% of them would have supported Obama.

    I think you may want to look into look into the percentage of African Americans that vote Democrat regardless of race.