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What Should Be In a Technology Bill of Rights?

snydeq writes "The Deep End's Paul Venezia argues in favor of the creation of a Technology Bill of Rights to protect individuals against malfeasance, tyranny, and exploitation in an increasingly technological age. Venezia's initial six proposed articles center on anonymity rights, net neutrality, the open-sourcing of law enforcement software and hardware, and the like. What sort of efficacy do you see such a document having, and in an ideal world, which articles do you see as imperative for inclusion in a Technology Bill of Rights?"

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  1. Lets see... by moderators_are_w*nke · · Score: 4, Funny

    Net neutrality, Linux on desktop, Duke Nukem 4 Ever, cheap macs, freedom from malware, peace in the middle east and a cuddly Tux for all.

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    1. Re:Lets see... by icebike · · Score: 3, Funny

      All those would have made a FAR BETTER start than those suggested in TFA.

      Can we have TFA author just shitcan his silly suggestions and adopt yours instead?

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    2. Re:Lets see... by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...cuddly Tux for all.

      Yeah, that'll happen.

      Everybody knows cuddly Tux isn't ready for neck-space! They are still only good for you stuffed animal geeks who prefer their own hand-sewn plushies to mass produced teddybears and beanie babies. Open source sewing machines are helping, but there are still too many situations where hand-sewing is the only option, and that is just not acceptable.

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  2. The right to bear arms by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Er, the right to defend yourself against the evils of viruses, malware, and if I dare to be redundant, DRM.

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  3. Nothing by digsbo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    We don't need it. The bill of rights already protects our personal rights and limits the federal government's powers over the states and the citizens.

    Oh, wait, the Constitution is routinely ignored by the Federal Government. So I'm sure a non-binding technology bill of rights will have a huge impact on limiting the Federal Government's actions...

    1. Re:Nothing by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The bill of rights already protects our personal rights and limits the federal government's powers over the states and the citizens.

      Actually the Bill of Rights just codified our rights. Our rights are inalienable regardless of whether or not they are listed in the Bill of Rights.

      Oh, wait, the Constitution is routinely ignored by the Federal Government. So I'm sure a non-binding technology bill of rights will have a huge impact on limiting the Federal Government's actions...

      Beat me to it :(

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    2. Re:Nothing by slashqwerty · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well the U.S. Bill of Rights is certainly an excellent starting point.
      1. The right to express yourself, to peacefully assemble, to participate in religion without government interference and without government proselytizing, the right to petition the government, and the right to publish.
      2. The right to possess 'hacking' tools such as NMap, cryptography, high-performance computers, and anti-DRM tools.
      3. Prohibition on the government camping out on our equipment ala CALEA and the Clipper Chip.
      4. Right to be free from search and seizure without a warrant.
      5. Right not to testify against yourself such a being compelled to hand over a cryptographic key. Sanctions can not be imposed without due process (no three allegations and your cut off from the internet). Just compensation for government seizure for public purpose. Prohibition on double jeopardy.
      6. Right to confront your accuser (Media Sentry), right to a speedy trial, right to counsel, right to trial by jury.
      7. Right to jury even in modest civil cases.
      8. Punishment shall not be overly severe (no massive penalties for copyright infringement). Bail shall not be excessive (one million dollars bail when refusing to do your job).
      9. Other, unenumerated rights exist.
      10. Government shall not exceed its enumerated powers.
    3. Re:Nothing by LuYu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The other point is where you get these rights from? GOD? This is scary, as the move to make this country secular puts your rights on thin ice.

      Just because the source of these inalienable Rights is unknown or, better yet, undefined does not mean that they are dependent upon such a source. I do not believe that Jehova had a deal with the Founding Fathers to strike anybody with lightning who willingly violated the Constitution. The reason these rights are inalienable is this: These are in many ways the minimum Rights necessary for the system to function. By threatening any of these Rights for any individual, everybody's Rights are threatened. These Rights come from nature as there is no way to guarantee Rights for some but not for all without tyranny.

      Therefore, you can assign any origin to these Rights you want: physics (it is a property of reality), logic (it does make sense to do it any other way), God (if a being created everything, that being should be able to take credit for the properties within that creation), the Tao (it is impossible to enforce Rights for some in the absence of Rights for all), or even Jefferson (smart guy). I think the reason the terms "inalienable" and "natural" were chosen for a reason. They avoid this fixation on a specific creed and allow people of all faiths or no faith to have the same belief in Freedom.

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  4. As Douglas Adams put it... by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What sort of efficacy do you see such a document having,

    Prosser: "Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it run straight over you?"
    Arthur: "How much?"
    Prosser: "None at all."

  5. Separation by oldhack · · Score: 3, Funny

    Strict separation of state from goatse terror regime.

    Or did the frist post already address that?

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  6. Absolute Requirement by serutan · · Score: 3, Funny

    A reference to the Book of Armaments has to be in there somewhere.

  7. Gaaah! by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The American founding fathers, from whom the Bill of Rights came, viewed rights a inherent to all individuals and not something granted by men. Either from God, or inherent in nature (or actually both, to my understanding).

    These rights are what is referred to as "negative rights". Basically put, that you can do just about anything so long as it doesn't infringe on another's well-being. Everything in the Bill of Rights demonstratably follows from that--that the government shall not interfere. But it doesn't grant you special privileges, either--nothing that requires one else give it to you (well, with some exceptions like right to a speedy trial).

    To then go on to talk about a Bill of Rights as some arbitrarily-agreed upon standards is ridiculous and on some level scary, because it implies your humans rights and worth is something up for democratic debate and potentially is yet another chip on the political bargaining table.

    You don't have to be an adherent to natural law (I'm not) to feel or believe in that. No so-called "Bill of Rights" should demand that other private entities ought to give you special privileges or concessions based on some mob rule decision. No wonder Democrats so frequently assume that the 2nd amendment means something that it doesn't--they believe (or at least, appear to believe) that rights and apparently human dignity are government-granted...!

    1. Re:Gaaah! by rattaroaz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Unfortunately, you and I are so 18th century. Back then, if not otherwise specified, the government had no rights. But now, it has been successfully turned around. Unless otherwise specified by the government, the people have no rights. Like it or not, I think most Americans see it that way, and not just Democrats. Damn shame.

    2. Re:Gaaah! by DragonWriter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To then go on to talk about a Bill of Rights as some arbitrarily-agreed upon standards is ridiculous and on some level scary, because it implies your humans rights and worth is something up for democratic debate and potentially is yet another chip on the political bargaining table.

      I don't know why its scary: the Bill of Rights itself is the product of discussion, debate, and democratic process. Sure, they reflect a means of protecting what at least a significant portion of those discussing and debating thought were fundamental rights in natural law, but they were no less a product of political process than any other law.

      The treatment of the Constitution (whether the main text or the Bill of Rights) as some sort of quasi-religious revealed document given by quasi-divine Founders, rather than a political document created by men and subject to debate on its merits, is what I find scary.

  8. Lets see... by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1. Right to access the internet if you pay for it
    2. Right to control what software is on your computer
    3. Right to copy anything you own for your own personal use
    4. Right to use software that does not interfere with anyone else's right
    5. The Right to publish any information that is true without fear of takedown notices
    6. The Right to possess any information
    7. The Right to control your own hardware
    8. The Right to use any device for any purpose that does not interfere with rights of others
    9. The Right to remain anonymous
    10.The Right to have free, uncensored speech on your own servers

    Have all these and we would have a good start.

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  9. Be careful what you wish for by icebike · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These things have a habit of A) never becoming law and B) being subverted if and when they do become law.

    For example:

    Article 2: No network provider may constrain or restrict access to the Internet in any way, shape, or form other than agreed-upon access speeds

    Really: Cart Blanche to do any amount of illegal acts on the net without fear of having your use cut off? Really? Required car analogy: I can do anything in my car as long as I don't exceed the speed limit? Really? You've thought this thru, have you Paul?

    Article 3. No individual shall be held liable for effects of malware or malicious code unknowingly run on a personal computer

    This exonerates those who write malicious code. They release a virus to the internet, but have no knowledge of which computers it becomes installed on. Therefore, they are not liable.

    Number 4: Why should anyone be obligated implement mandatory update checks in any software?
    What if I don't want my software calling home?

    The more you read this screed the less well thought out it becomes.

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  10. privacy vs anonymity by drDugan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Privacy is the ability to protect ones personal information from others - preventing others from accessing information about yourself.

    Anonymity is removing information which could identify a person as a specific individual from a group.

    These two ideas are close, but subtly different. Privacy can be an absolute concept - preventing information access and use for certain information can be binary: either others can access it or not. Anonymity is almost never absolute: simply knowing a human posted text has anonymity to 1 in about 6.7 Billion(ish). If you know any other information, the degree of anonymity goes down: Posted online: 1 in 2 Billion, in English: 1 in 400million. A male in the US implies 1 in about 190Million. A person who lives a particular zip code: anonymous to about 1 in 20 thousand. Examining the content one exposes: a person in Chicago, who is interested in the Chicago Cubs, and opposes the fare increase -- digging into details like that can make a person anonymous to about 1 in a few hundred with enough work.

    Asserting anything about anonymity must include the idea that anonymity is always a sliding scale, and depends a lot on every bit of information a person chooses to put out into the world.

    I do *not* think anonymity is a right, nor should we try to enforce it or preserve it. Anonymity is an anachronism in recent human history. People act better when they know they are not anonymous.

    Privacy protections on the other hand are very important. Personal information sets, socially defined, that one chooses to protect and chooses to prevent others from being able to access of use once they have it are extremely important, and should be promoted and protected strongly.

  11. Software evidence by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the result or output of a software program is to be used as evidence in court, then the code of that program needs to be made available to the court for analysis.

    In 20 years it's going to be a no-brainer that if you're using the output of an algorithm as legal evidence then the algorithm should be up for scrutiny, so I'm not sure why people have difficulty understanding that now (especially as it relates to things like voting machines and breathalyzers).

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  12. Re:Avoid Firts Post by omeomi · · Score: 5, Funny

    The prohibition of "I see what you did there" follow-ups?

  13. More important rights.... by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Article 1. Any individual shall be able to choose anonymity when posting to Internet sites

    I disagree with this. While I do believe in the fundamental right to anonymity, it is totally up to the sites owners to make them anonymous or not. For example, lets say this happened to Facebook, you would be instantly hit by a whirlpool of spam, bots, etc.

    I believe you have a right to remain fundamentally anonymous, for example I believe in the right to be able to use temporary anonymous e-mail accounts, the right to use Tor and other anonymity proxies, You should have a right to remain anonymous if you so choose, however sites should have the right to require registration to maintain the sanity of the site. But, similarly allowing anonymous postings on a site should be a right for the owners of the site too.

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  14. How about... by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Material you create on an electronic device is *yours* and if that is encrypted or "protected" by some third party technology you always have the right to break that technology to get to the content you rightly own.

    Yes.. this is directly in contrast with the DMCA... and it's outrageous.

  15. Mister Jalopy said it well by emptynet · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The Maker's Bill of Rights
    • Meaningful and specific parts lists shall be included.
    • Cases shall be easy to open.
    • Batteries should be replaceable.
    • Special tools are allowed only for darn good reasons.
    • Profiting by selling expensive special tools is wrong and not making special tools available is even worse.
    • Torx is OK; tamperproof is rarely OK.
    • Components, not entire sub-assemblies, shall be replaceable.
    • Consumables, like fuses and filters, shall be easy to access.
    • Circuit boards shall be commented.
    • Power from USB is good; power from proprietary power adapters is bad.
    • Standard connecters shall have pinouts defined.
    • If it snaps shut, it shall snap open.
    • Screws better than glues.
    • Docs and drivers shall have permalinks and shall reside for all perpetuity at archive.org.
    • Ease of repair shall be a design ideal, not an afterthought.
    • Metric or standard, not both.
    • Schematics shall be included.

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  16. Re:Avoid Firts Post by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What about the prohibition of "me too!" posts?

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  17. Unlimited porn access for all by XPeter · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't read my sig.

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  18. Inalienable Rights by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Replying more to all the repliers above me than the parent: you people are completely misunderstanding what was meant by "inalienable rights".

    It does NOT mean that it is impossible to infringe on "inalienable rights". What it means is that there are a set of basic rights that apply to all human beings. They are "inalienable" because we desearve these rights by our very existance. However, just because they exist does not make them un-infringeable. What the constitution did by spelling those rights out in the Bill of Rights was make a promise that the US government would not infringe on those 10 basic rights.

    The system for discovering violations of these rights tends to be slow, since the government is large and things tend to escape notice for a while or simply take time to become sizeable enough to be noticed. However despite it's slow nature (or perhaps because of it?) the system is very effective, and we have essentially the same freedoms - more in some ways, in fact - that we had at the nation's founding.

    Our system was designed around protecting these basic, inalienable rights. Even if the mightiest of the mighty in this land - our elected officials, president, and SCOTUS - manage to screw up the Bill of Rights, there is always a do-over. Laws are constantly neutered or bolstered by the courts, SCOTUS decisions can and have been overturned by other SCOTUS decisions, Amendments to the Constitution can and have been supplanted by new amendments, and the President can and has been impeached.

    All this to protect our basic human rights (plus others, sure).

    That said, the promise (i.e. the Constitution) was not made to non-US citizens and so US actions outside the US territory are often ignored, and the oppression of other people is always ignored unless it somehow represents a direct threat to the freedom of US citizens.

    That's just the way it goes.

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  19. Re:To be fair to the publishers by LuYu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd also go further and require that any software shipping with DRM that restricts any fair use rights should be required to have exactly what rights it restricts, and how it restricts them, labelled on the outside of the box.

    What about future Fair Use rights? Fair Use, until very recently, was not codified, and even today, the enumeration in Title 17 is not a complete listing of all Fair Use rights (for instance, most people consider copying mp3s to a portable player or a phone to be Fair Use, but nowhere in the codified law does it say this is Fair Use, and a strict reading of the law would lead one to the conclusion that this activity was certainly illegal). Before codification and even now, many Fair Use rights are decided by precedent in the courts. How could a label cover all that?

    Still, I like the direction your thoughts are taking :-) A Surgeon General's style warning might be nice: "DRM has been known to cause fits of rage and even strokes in some individuals."

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