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US To Require That New Cars Get 42 MPG By 2016

Hugh Pickens writes "New cars and trucks will have to get 30 percent better mileage starting in 2016 under an Obama administration move to curb emissions tied to smog and global warming. While the 30 percent increase would be an average for both cars and light trucks, the percentage increase in cars would be much greater, rising from the current 27.5 mpg standard to 42 mpg. Environmentalists praised the move. Carl Pope, executive director of the Sierra Club, called it 'one of the most significant efforts undertaken by any president, ever, to end our addiction to oil and seriously slash our global warming emissions.' Obama's plan also would effectively end litigation between states and automakers that had opposed state-specific rules, arguing that having to meet several state standards would be much more expensive for them than just one federal rule. The Detroit News reported that automakers were on board with the new rule and had worked with the administration on creating a timeline for the transition." There's a case to be made that raising the CAFE won't save oil or reduce greenhouse gases.

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  1. Re:why not just tax gas? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Because gas is used to move products and everything else, YOU STUPID, DUMB FUCK! What is wrong with fuckheads like you? You have no fucking grasp of dynamic economies. FUCKING KILL YOURSELF!!!

  2. Re:Automakers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Losing our free will one one mile at a time.

    You never had free will -- all physical events are causally determined.

    Ooops, sorry, you didn't mean "free will," did you? Sorry I didn't realize at first you were an illiterate. But don't mind me, you can git back to lovin' yer hogs. Yeehaw!

  3. Re:Equilibrium dynamics by DigiShaman · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Oh right, like OPEC isn't going to reduce output just to match lower demand to inflate prices?

    It doesn't matter how much you consume (less or more), OPEC will always act as a pressure regulator on the market gear towards its favor.

    Obama can take is Go-Car and shove it. It's laughable to think his family will ever drive them. Hell, I can say that for the rest of the DC elite too.

    Me? I'll just get a Harley. Fuck that euro gay-ass shit on four wheels.

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  4. Re:Collusion by XanC · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The new definition of "emissions" includes carbon dioxide. Indoctrination complete.

  5. Re:Collusion by dindi · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Excuse me, but I am not putting my family in that.... my 12 year old BMW is 300x safer than that paperbox .... and uses 7-8l / 100 kms ... go calculate how much that in in MPG ...

    On the other hand : that efficiency is not going to happen ... so I just keep restoring my 2-stroke dirtbike till they ban them eveywhere ... ohh ... I am really a tree hugger and a vegan ....

  6. NIce strategy.... by JRHelgeson · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why don't we mandate that processor speeds operate at 2 terahertz... I know that Intel is just holding out on us to string us along. They must be heavily invested in big power and big HVAC, those corrupt bastards at Intel. While we're at it, we should also mandate that Ethernet speeds be cranked up to terabit speeds as well, and all by 2012, because we all know there would be NO innovation if left to the companies themselves. If government weren't there to mandate these innovations, why, could you imagine where we would be today?

    The levels of insanity...

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  7. Re:Insightful? Mods on crack? by XanC · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Your continued capitalization of the word "Science" exposes you as the cultist. You regard "Science" as your god.

  8. Re:Automakers by XanC · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It just makes sense to stop WASTING everything we can, just because we can.)

    What you really mean is, you want to use a gun to force everybody else to stop wasting, by your definition of waste.

    You've always been perfectly free to not waste.

  9. Re:Equilibrium dynamics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    That's incredibly illogical. The amount of fuel required is not a function of the cost of the fuel. Perhaps you are trying to say the real cost of the energy will increase? Real cost of fuel has primarily decreased over time, even with the increased taxes, until now. The US government's addiction to behavioral extortion by taxation and regulation is the real reason fuel costs go up. Technology to extract and synthesize hydrocarbons continues to increase. That doesn't take into account discovery of new oil deposits. With modern technologies, the U.S. has more extractable oil than the Middle East.

    The real result of this will be even more destruction of the U.S. auto manufacturers. Americans buy trucks and SUVs because they have stuff to move, long distances to travel and don't want to live if there is an accident. American cities are not based on foot traffic such as those of most of Western Europe. The auto companies were already on a constantly increasing rate of efficiency which Obama and his loonies have decided must change instantly. Their "car czar" has no heavy manufacturing experience whatsoever and, apparently, doesn't comprehend or care that the design of the 2012 fleets was completed a couple of years ago. (As a side note, how about that $15,000,000 house he's building or when they asked Chrysler when a car that had been on the market for 18 months would start to be in showrooms?) What will happen to the U.S. automakers will be very similar to when the catalytic converters were first required. Politicians decided it had to be done "now" but they didn't care or comprehend the concept of waterfall development. Catalytic converters were put onto cars which were already designed but, of course, not designed for the performance impact of the converter. THIS is what lead to the first major invasion of non-U.S. cars into the U.S. car market. The idea that the Arab oil embargo forced the U.S. consumer to buy smaller cards is a convenient myth. Manufacturers could have changed designs to fit the converters but not ones that were already down the pipeline. Adding seatbelts were one thing, changing the exhaust pipe from a pipe to a straw was quite another. Perhaps the administration's plan is to kill the American automakers. Regardless, the result will be a huge impact on the price and availability of goods and services through government fiat. Buy a 2011 car and plan to make it last.

    This is looking more and more like the housing "bailout" which was nothing more than subsidizing a handful of states through confiscation of money from the other 40+ states. Michigan and Ohio completely collapse because California and New York lunatics don't comprehend science and business? The 2010 and 2012 elections should be very interesting as the Baby Boomers continue to accelerate their irresponsible ways.

  10. Re:Automakers by Cally · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    (a) Dude, whatever the fuck you're on, stop taking it.
    (b) Is this story some kind of joke? I get 40mpg regularly in my 12-year-old Toyota Celica, yes the thing that won the World Rally Championship before Toyota pulled out to let Subaru have a turn on it. If 40mpg is the target for new cars, we're utterly, utterly fucked.

    Oh, wait! We ARE utterly, utterly fucked!! Thanks, Republitards, you've helped wipe out civilisation as we know it. Have fun living off the land in what will soon be the desert wastes of Montana!

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  11. Re:Automakers by maharb · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I love how I get modded troll because I want to pick what I drive and not have the government do it for me. Not everyone lives in a big city where you can't open your car up and have some fun with it.

    The only way to get this magical number of 46 mpg is to build cars that are only meant to go from point A to B and nothing else. That is fine if those cars are available but to regulate it to where those are the ONLY cars you can buy is ridiculous. Let people have some choices, let us pick what we can buy. If I want a car that has 300hp and gets 20 mpg I should be able to buy it and not some sort of car powered by hope and happy thoughts.

    If you want to tax it as a sin tax, fine, tax gasoline and let me be on my way but don't take one of my joys away from me because you think it's going to save the environment.

    So go on saying this is great. Have your happy thoughts about all the environment we are saving but also remember what you are giving up. Maybe you don't care on this issue but sooner or later the government is going to take something from you.

  12. Re:Automakers by LordKazan · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Go Godwin something else you Glenn Beck and Limbaugh-listening dimwit.

    You listen to certifiable paranoid schizophrenics you start to become one.

    $DIETY right wingers are so immature

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