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Craigslist Fights Back, Sues SC Atty General

FredMastro writes "Craigslist has now stepped past just asking for an apology. The Wall Street Journal and CNet report that Craigslist is fighting back. 'Craigslist said it has sued South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster, in the latest escalation of a battle over adult-oriented ads on the company's site. Jim Buckmaster, Craigslist's chief executive, said in a blog post that the company filed its suit in federal court in South Carolina. ...'" Unfortunately, the WSJ's piece requires a subscription, but reader Locke2005 adds a link to coverage in the San Jose Business Journal.

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  1. It's about time by gcnaddict · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's about time someone stood up for free speech. Intimidation and coercion need to be met with even more force to keep our rights intact.

    that and I like Craigslist.

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  2. Re:Good. by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sufficient demand for a service will create a market. Maybe, instead of trying to plug the extraordinarily leaky dike holding back vice, we should embrace, tax, and regulate it. Craigslist prostitution ads aren't a problem per se: they merely constitute another signal telling us it's time to re-examine some of our old prejudices.

  3. Re:How to fix all of this by Notabadguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a horrible idea.

    And what happens when all the frivolous lawsuits that people love tossing around get used like a DoS attack against unpopular people, or people that someone has a vendetta against?

    What happens when 10,000 anti-war activists all file individual suits against the president? He's supposed to put out of pocket to defend himself?

    And if I'm the CEO of Apple, and someone doesn't like their iPhone and can't get a refund because they're past the purchase date allowance, if they sue me because they feel wronged, do I pay for it myself?

    Unreasonable plan.

  4. Re:A civil case? by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He improperly used his office to personally threaten Craigslist into doing what he wanted. He also publicly and improperly stated that the operators of Craigslist were criminally responsible for prostitution, essentially calling them pimps in the national media. I'm not saying they're going to win, but I believe that those two issues are the basis for their case.

  5. Re:Doesn't anyone read the warnings? by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Craigslist makes money and regardless of my feelings on free speech, it shouldn't be profiting from illegal activity.

    Are you implying that your opposition to illegal activity is stronger than your commitment to free speech? That's the sentiment evil men use to create nightmare police states.

  6. Tie him to a dynamo by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In a statement, Mr. McMaster called Craigslist's legal action "good news" because "it shows that Craigslist is taking the matter seriously for the first time."

    The logical disconnect is astounding, like if McBride claimed to be glad that Novell was suing because is demonstrates their serious intent.

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  7. Re:I'm not sure... by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know how the adult/erotic services was ever allowed. I figure they are facilitating a crime, and illegal industry, whether explicitly knowing or not.Where ads are free, if they don't have an explicit categories for whores to advertise, then the whores will spam all the other categories! Finding ads for sex services in the dating section is considerably more annoying then finding them in section where you have to be explicitly looking for whores to be viewing the first place. Sorta like being propositioned in church, it is somewhat disturbing! Giving the sex services their own place actually minimizes the impact on craigslist customers, and minimizes minors accidentally stumbling upon the material.

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  8. Re:Good. by evilkasper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Regulate it, slap a sin tax on it. You create jobs(referring to the oversight of the industry), and you help prevent the spread of disease by enforcing health standards, crime is cut down and the Police can go take care of violent crimes. But most importantly we'll stop hearing about this Craiglist BS.

  9. Re:Good. by arthurpaliden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So my phone book has an entire section for 'escorts'. Is he going to take the phone company(s) to court as well.

  10. Re:Good. by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still don't understand why prostitution is illegal. Regulate it, slap a sin tax on it.

    I agree completely as a matter of policy, but in practice there will still be plenty of illegal and unregulated prostitution going on (which is still, IMO, a problem). First and foremost, many hookers will try to avoid taxes (they already get paid in cash, which means every dollar they make is like $1.35 in taxed salary) and pimps who rely on drug-addicted (or otherwise abused) hookers will want to stay off the radar. Girls that don't meet health standards will still turn to the black/gray market to make ends meet. Nevada's experiment with legal prostitution shows that, unless legal prostitution can compete on price with illegal prostitution, you still get plenty of street walkers. Your average working-class John cannot afford to pay for the regulatory overhead (hehehe) and taxes that it would take to legalize it and turns to the street.

    After all that noise, Craigslist will still be vilified for helping prostitutes meet Johns outside the regulatory framework. Look the furor in Chicago regarding the discriminatory housing posts, which you see all the fucking time on Craigslist because many people have preferences that are illegal to advertise (not illegal to have though, in a bizarre twist of law). Many folks (thankfully not the courts) thought that Craigslist was responsible for the users that were using a legal service in a manner that violates housing advertising regulations. Think about the howls when Craigslist is advertising for sexual services that don't meet regulations.

    Like I said, I agree totally from a policy point of view, but I'm just a lot more cynical about the results when that policy hits the real world.

  11. Re:Good. by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Last I checked the federal government, the Democrats don't need the Republicans' permission to do anything. Perhaps the Democrats need to become liberal? For damn sure the Republicans need to become conservative!

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  12. Re:Good. by EvilToiletPaper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well said, legalizing it might have helped save Julissa Brismann and countless other victims who are too scared to get legal help.

    The sex trade is as old as civilization itself and it doesn't look like it's going away anytime soon.

    Legislators are going at this the same way they dealt with drugs: outlaw everything, create a thriving underground market, sanction expensive studies, waste money in propaganda, throw some more cops at it..total failure.

  13. Re:Good. by bob.appleyard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Criminalising prostitution means that if prostitutes are being mistreated, they have no-one to go to.

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