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On iPhone, Searching For Kama Sutra = Porn

heychris writes "Eucalyptus, an ebook app for iPhone, has been rejected from the App Store for 'objectionable content.' What's so objectionable? The Kama Sutra, available from Project Gutenberg, which is available on other ebook readers as well. Not only that, but the screenshot shows that you would have to search for Kama Sutra to get it; it's not built in to Eucalyptus. The author is reasonable but frustrated, while Herr Gruber is more succinct." I wonder how good the now-cheap Nokia 810 is as an e-book reader.

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  1. The Kama Sutra isn't porn by Daimanta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now excuse me, I'm going to read some find articles in the Playboy.

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    1. Re:The Kama Sutra isn't porn by beadfulthings · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, it's a 5,000 year old marriage manual with religious overtones. But the good folks at Apple can't allow us to be distracted from their bestsellers--immortal classics like "Pee Monkey" and "Urinal Test..." (or whatever the hell it's called).

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  2. They should pull a Trent Reznor by lothos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They should pull a Trent Reznor and re-submit the app. It sounds like approval is very subjective based on the reviewer. Chances are it might get approved the second time around.

    1. Re:They should pull a Trent Reznor by AmazingRuss · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've heard of several instances where people re-submitted unchanged apps and had them accepted. I'm guessing apple has a sweatshop somewhere in Asia stocked with marginal english speakers evaluating apps.

    2. Re:They should pull a Trent Reznor by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or special case it to not find The Kama Sutra and resubmit, then offer a patch later to undo the special case. If "it allows people looking for porn to find porn" is a valid criteria for rejecting an app, I suspect Apple is going to have to reject a lot more apps.

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    3. Re:They should pull a Trent Reznor by harryandthehenderson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If "it allows people looking for porn to find porn" is a valid criteria for rejecting an app, I suspect Apple is going to have to reject a lot more apps.

      And they would have to retroactively reject their own web browser.

  3. Here's a suggestion: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you are so opposed to Apple's censorship, STOP BUYING AND HYPING THEIR PRODUCTS.

    Until techy geeks stop hyping everything Apple does as the "next big thing" and start paying attention to the shady shit that Apple pulls every day, the situation will never get better.

    1. Re:Here's a suggestion: by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course it's censorship. It's just not government censorship. That means it isn't illegal, it's just moronic, stupid, vile, idiotic, repugnant and pathetic.

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    2. Re:Here's a suggestion: by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is theres really no other alternative. There are nearly no cheap AT&T handsets that A) Have a multi-touch enabled captive touchscreen B) A decent browser C) Lots of (quality) applications to download for free.

      Sure, Android is great... Unfortunately here in the US there are only one or two phones released with it officially and both are on T-Mobile. Windows Mobile doesn't support captive touch screens officially, and almost anyone who has used WinMo can tell you it basically sucks. Blackberry looks promising, but as of now their only touch screen phone is hampered by SureType or whatever they call it making your typing speed really slow, and its locked in to Verizion. And other than Symbian (which AFAIK doesn't have a phone with a touchscreen), there aren't any other major smartphone OSes to choose from.

      Until we get cell phone networks that actually embrace new and advanced hardware, it seems like we will be stuck with crappy phones.

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    3. Re:Here's a suggestion: by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem is theres really no other alternative.

      You're shitting me.

      Please don't pretend that it's all about the "A)..multi-touch enabled captive touchscreen".

      Why are people so resistant to simply admitting it's a fashion accessory? There's no shame in wanting something for status' sake. You don't have to make up rationalizations.

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    4. Re:Here's a suggestion: by mjwx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please don't pretend that it's all about the "A)..multi-touch enabled captive touchscreen".

      Multi-touch is a gimmick, you have a good point there. But a responsive touchscreen is an important feature. Capacitive touch screens with good drivers provide much faster responses, comparing the capacitive screen my HTC Dream (G1 in the US) to the resistive screen on the Samsung F480 and the Samsung screen is almost unusable compared to the responsiveness of the HTC. While a touch screen is not necessary for a phone, if you're going to put a touch screen into a phone it should be a decent touchscreen

      Why are people so resistant to simply admitting it's a fashion accessory?

      Cognitive Dissonance, they cant handle the conflicting ideas that the iphone cannot perform the same functions in other smartphones whilst maintaining the impression that the iphone is the "best phone in the world". Iphone fanboys are the worst fanboys to deal with.

      Although I admit to the sin of pride in my android based phone, I'll be the first to point out its flaws.

      There's no shame in wanting something for status' sake. You don't have to make up rationalizations.

      Post Purchase rationalisation. The Iphone cost too much to be a simple fashion accessory, unlike jewellery it will never increase in value, when their contract is up after 24 months their phone will be worthless and superseded by up to 2 models. For this they have spent a minimum of A$1800 for a locked phone.

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    5. Re:Here's a suggestion: by nausea_malvarma · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because it's not. We use it because it has good features and is easy to use, plus a million others reasons.

      Why are people so resistant to admitted that it's not just a fashion accessory but is actually a great, intuitive piece of technology.

      CAR ANALOGY:

      A Porsche has good features, and it's easy to use. Infact, Porsches are good cars, and great pieces of technology. But that doesn't mean everyone needs a Porsche, or that all Porsche purchases are motivated by the car's attractive specs.

      Infact, most people buy Porsches because they are a trendy status symbol, and owning one makes you look cool and important. Like the iphone.

  4. App Store advertising scheme by daybot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This iPhone App advertising scheme isn't fooling me and I'm tired of these Slashdot stories feeding the cycle.

    1. Get iPhone app rejected by Apple, publish story, incite moral outrage by online community, then resubmit and get it accepted.
    2. ???
    3. Profit!
  5. Kama Sutra is not porn by bzzfzz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is difficult to imagine how the text-only English translation of the Kama Sutra could be considered porn by anyone who has not spent the last 20 years in a Skinner box. Today, it is probably best understood as an interesting piece of history, since its contents are neither especially informative or titillating.

    Of course, if some of the reviewers at Apple have spent the last 20 years in a Skinner box, that would explain a number of the bogus rejections.

  6. Jesus Christ by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree with the more "succinct" blog commenter that is linked in the summary; this is a truly execrable move on Apple's part. The point isn't just that the Kama Sutra can be found elsewhere or that it doesn't meet the definition of pornography. I'm sorry, but the Kama Sutra is one of the world's great religious texts, and is a great literary work in its own right. That Apple would put itself on the side of prohibiting access to it on some sort of moral grounds is completely outrageous. Apple should issue a public apology and fire the person who made this decision. Better yet, they should make the app store approval process more content-neutral, but we know that's not going to happen.

  7. Apple = Evil by lpq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's only showing it's colors.

    Apple's always been *evil*. They've just become very good at creating the 'must-have' style products that are overpriced, locking you into Apple ... at every chance. Easily shutting down anything remotely resembling 'freedom' -- which is what made the PC great in the first place. People have complained about MS's adoption of more and more DRM, but Apple's always had a de facto locking -- by having exclusive locks on compatible hardware. MS went with the approach of allowing unrestricted interoperability (which, when they've tried to limit, they've gotten slapped down due to their monopoly position, but Apple is similarly a monopoly in their market. But MS on PC's and Apples on Apples, are both monopolies. Apple gets away with it because they are smaller -- but their policies and user-abuse are far harsher and more totalitarian than MS. Much of that stems from Apple's core culture, but some of it also stems from MS being forced to be more open because they are a standard -- which they became because of their openness.

    It disgusts me the way Apple fanboys fawn all everything Apple, which fancying themselves superior to PC-users. Bu it's nothing more than it ever was -- financial and "in-crowd" elitism.

    You see it in Apple's commercials...the I'm a Mac, vs. PC. The PC guy looks like the average harried Joe -- while the Apple guy is just portrayed as 'cool'...with all his little 16-17 y/o rail-thin model pod-girls dancing around him in silhouette, like an oh-so-more-sophisticated 'Deadhead' scene of rainbow colors, but with the original 'cool' of Beatles style and music 60's-70 -- the epitome of cool in the baby-boom generation, with it's message perpetuating the message of perpetual cool youth with their stylish Apple products. The iPhone, by it's price should be focused on adults and business types, but it's obviously focused on sales to teens and 20'-something as the latest trend of electronic fashion -- just like the ipods were yesterday's (and ongoing) fashion statement.

    But people should be concerned about how much market lock-in Apple has -- they own the main means of distribution for their gadgets -- and get to decide how their devices are used -- and they have shown that they have no qualms about shutting down anyone who tries to use their product in an unapproved manner -- or even performing the crudest of Christian censorship campaigns against 'objectionable' classics that have been previously censored or caused controversy. What will be next on their banned list, the unexpurgated poems of Walt Whitman, or the 'Song of Songs': an erotic piece that has been subject to demands of censorship over the centuries as it describes intense expressions of physical love, the voluptuous beauty of lovers longing for one another and in a uniquely feminine perspective, it's seductive and intimate language conveys and immediate, sensuous and intoxicating desire. Certainly worthy of censorship -- or how about the recent decision in Bloomington, Ind where the city is refusing to run a paid-bus, public-service ad, "You can be good without God", as being too controversial (that's their definition of objectionable).

    That Apple is using it's censorship powers on type of apps and content is very disturbing given it's unique, monopoly lock in the markets it sells too -- yet the fan boys swoon on, like Apple can do no wrong. They were they original PC-company that moved to sue all their competitors out of business. The original company that "sued over their "Intellectual Property" -- they've been guilty of copyright, patent, trademark and DRM abuse since their creation and have no qualms using lawsuits and their market-lock on their products, to control what you can with "your" product (it's really their product -- they can brick-it anytime they don't like a change you've implemented). If you are lucky, they'll replace it