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BPA Leaches From Polycarbonate Bottles Into Humans

Linus the Turbonerd sends in the bulletin that BPA, a toxic chemical used in the production of polycarbonate, the plastic composing hard, clear water bottles, has been found to leach out of such containers, directly into the water that their users consume. "In addition to polycarbonate bottles, which are refillable and a popular container among students, campers and others and are also used as baby bottles, BPA is also found in dentistry composites and sealants and in the lining of aluminum food and beverage cans. ... 'We found that drinking cold liquids from polycarbonate bottles for just one week increased urinary BPA levels by more than two-thirds. If you heat those bottles, as is the case with baby bottles, we would expect the levels to be considerably higher. This would be of concern since infants may be particularly susceptible to BPA's endocrine-disrupting potential,' said Karin B. Michels, associate professor of epidemiology at HSPH and Harvard Medical School and senior author of the study."

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  1. Old? by tulmad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Isn't this extremely old news? Companies have been making BPA-free plastic bottles now for a long long time, including baby bottles.

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    1. Re:Old? by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is a new study, just published. It confirms earlier indications that BPA's are far from inert and it adds data to specific scenarios whereby they are transmitted for ingestion.

      Many manufacturers have dropped BPA for reasons of public-relations.

      Replaced by?

      Other unproven, untested and highly suspect additives for 'softening' and 'pliability'.

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    2. Re:Old? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Careful, this one has friends.

      Anyway, anyone who can't read between the lines of Nalgene stopping their use of a material they've been claiming is the best thing ever isn't very smart, and deserves toxics in their pee.

      The most hilarious part is that if you told people ten years ago that polycarbonates were dangerous they'd say that you were a big fucking idiot. Five years ago you'd be a conspiracy theorist. Today, you're vindicated. Tomorrow, you'll tell them about something else that's probably dangerous, and you'll be a big idiot to them again.

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    3. Re:Old? by Hurricane78 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean like the industrial sugar that's in 99% of all American (and 90% of all European) "food"? ^^

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    4. Re:Old? by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Corn Syrup.

      Michael Pollan has got the number on that. Backed by European studies on endocrine dysfunction and appetite distortion.

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    5. Re:Old? by fractoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Isn't this extremely old news? Companies have been making BPA-free plastic bottles now for a long long time, including baby bottles.

      Well I couldn't have told you exactly what chemical causes it, but I doubt you could find anyone who'd argue that fresh clean water left in a plastic container for a few days *doesn't* taste 'plasticky'. If the water tastes different when it comes out of the plastic container than when it went in, then either something has been removed (unlikely given that it's tap water in a sealed container) or there's something new in it, and unless you believe in homeopathy, that something new is a chemical.

      The human sense of taste is fascinating, it's like 'the lab' from NCIS except it's made out of a few square inches of meat.

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  2. Combined with Phyto-Estrogens from Soy Formula by Philip+K+Dickhead · · Score: 5, Funny

    This could grow tits on a frog.

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    1. Re:Combined with Phyto-Estrogens from Soy Formula by wjh31 · · Score: 4, Funny

      excelent, ill start feeding my girlfriend soymilk from a polycarbonate bottle

    2. Re:Combined with Phyto-Estrogens from Soy Formula by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're dating a frog? Hey, whatever floats your boat mate...

    3. Re:Combined with Phyto-Estrogens from Soy Formula by RabidMoose · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is Slashdot. Stealing a frog from the lab is the closest thing to a girlfriend he's likely to get for a long, long time.

    4. Re:Combined with Phyto-Estrogens from Soy Formula by CarpetShark · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're dating a frog? Hey, whatever floats your boat mate...

      You're assuming he had a choice.

  3. Bulletin? Bulletin? by btempleton · · Score: 4, Informative

    These bottles were banned two years ago, though not in the USA. This is hardly a bulletin.

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  4. Nalgene by HappyCycling · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nalgene, one of, if not the biggest producers of the 'indestructable' plastic bottles with BPA, still does not acknowledge the health detriments even though they stopped producing those bottles. Probably because of liability reasons... http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/bpaInfo.html

  5. Re:Bulletin? Bulletin? by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can the US government finally get on the fucking ball and ban BPA? I'm sick of catering to business interests.

  6. Great! Science Schmience by forgot_my_username · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great! I think we should all go back to lead plumbing and lead pewter cups.... After a couple of generations, we won't have all these fancy "scientific" reports.... Instead we will have... "wite paint tastyer than blu paint"

    refinance cost

  7. FUD? Doesn't seem to harm infants... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There was an interesting article on NPR recently where they looked at premature infants who were on heart-lung machines whose tubing all used such BPA. These kids had much higher levels than other kids in their systems. 15 years later there were no detectable problem with their reproductive systems. Granted the study size was small, but there is clearly no dramatic effect from significantly larger levels than adults get from using water bottles.

    1. Re:FUD? Doesn't seem to harm infants... by mozzis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What is most disturbing about this is that in this "highly technical" (ahem) community, only one poster noticed that what is important is not whether or not BPA is present in the urine or blood of people who use the bottles, but rather it is what are the health effects if any when it is present? A related question still unasked here is, how far away does a 69% increase in BPA levels put us from FDA-posited unsafe levels? Since the normal level in the population is thousands of times less than the unsafe level, this is an important piece of data that was missing from TFA.

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  8. Re:Delicious Uranium by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least RTF summary before you accuse people of mass hysteria. It says that aluminum beverage can liners contain BPA.

  9. I don't want to make light of this, but... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The linked report was less than useful, since the reporting was done in relative terms - e.g. "increased by two thirds". Okay, but two thirds over what? There are generally specific concentrations above which a chemical is identified as harmful by the government (or by a watchdog agency, if you don't trust the government). Why not say "BPA levels increase from the background level of xxxxxxx to a ppm/ppb of yyyyyy in individuals who drank from these bottles for one week"?

    So really, even if the shift away from BPA plastics wasn't already well on, there's no indication from this report whether I should actually be concerned or not. And frankly, as someone with a science background, this sort of thing makes me LESS likely to be concerned. When I see fuzzy reporting, my first though is it was done intentionally because they can't support their case using objective numbers. I've seen this happen in honest-to-goodness scientific papers way too often to not notice.

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  10. Re:half-life by man_ls · · Score: 5, Informative

    The bottle itself is a polymer of Bisphenol-A sub-units. As the bottle itself naturally breaks down from exposure to light, heat, etc. the polymer sub-units are liberated into the free BPA that is a problem. As long as there's a bottle made of polycarbonate, the water stored in it will have BPA.

  11. Re:soy milk by fractoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Hey, that's a nice set of soybeans on that blond over there, I really like to soak her overnight in water and then give her a wet grinding."

    Pedobear approves without quite knowing why.

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  12. Junk Science by thethibs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'We found that drinking cold liquids from polycarbonate bottles for just one week increased urinary BPA levels by more than two-thirds [from nearly zero to 1.6×nearly zero] . If you heat those bottles, as is the case with baby bottles, we would expect the levels to be considerably higher. This would be of concern since infants may be particularly susceptible to BPA's endocrine-disrupting potential,'

    This is propaganda, not science.

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