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Palm Pre To Sync Seamlessly With iTunes

Wired is reporting that Palm's new handheld device, the Pre, will be able to sync automagically with Apple's iTunes. Thanks to a team of ex-Apple engineers the Pre will sync everything but iPhone applications and some of the older Fairplay DRM music. "It does it by faking out iTunes, making the jukebox software think that it is connected to a real iPod. Hook it up and you'll be given three options: USB mass storage device, charging only or iTunes sync. This is a ballsy move from Palm, and we totally love it: a big fat middle finger at Apple. Apple will, we are sure, be readying its legal attack dogs as I write, and don't be at all surprised if an iTunes update pops up around June 6th. This fight just got a lot more interesting."

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  1. This should be interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    While I enjoy the big fat middle finger to Apple as much as the next guy, I firmly expect Apple to give the big fat legal cock in the ass back to Palm.

    And when it comes to a winner, the middle finger loses to the fat cock every time.

  2. Why is this a big deal? by Enuratique · · Score: 5, Informative

    iTunes currently supports about 20 non-iPod devices:
    Nomad II Creative Labs USB
    Nomad II MG Creative Labs USB
    Nomad II c Creative Labs USB
    Nomad Jukebox Creative Labs USB
    Nomad Jukebox 20GB Creative Labs USB
    Nomad Jukebox C Creative Labs USB
    Novad MuVo Creative Labs USB
    Rio One SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio 500 SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio 600 SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio 800 SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio 900 SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio S10 SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio S11 SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio S30S SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio S35S SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio S50 SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio Chiba SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio Fuse SONICBlue/S3 USB
    Rio Cali SONICBlue/S3 USB
    psa]play 60 Nike USB
    psa]play 120 Nike USB
    SoundSpace 2 Nakamichi USB

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2172

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    1. Re:Why is this a big deal? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The big deal is that Apple's not supporting iTunes interfacing with the Pre. The support is coming from Pre's side. Your post says:

      iTunes currently supports about 20 non-iPod devices

      The big deal is that it seems as if Apple decides what gets supported and what doesn't. It should be built so that any device maker can choose whether or not to build an adapter so that their hardware can interface with iTunes? Where does this leave iRiver, Archos, Sandisk, Microsoft, Centon, Nextar, etc?

      Apple decides who lives and who dies. That's the big deal.

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    2. Re:Why is this a big deal? by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 5, Informative

      Those are legacy devices, pre-dating the iPod, from the time when iTunes was just a music management application (originally called SoundJam MP) and not the lynchpin of Apple's vertical monopoly entertainment strategy.

      None of those devices are supported on iTunes for Windows.

  3. iTunes Has Always Supported Other Players by EastCoastSurfer · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are even documented on Apple's website. I'm not sure why it's a surprise that the Pre is also going to be able to sync with iTunes.

  4. I can see an iTunes update in your future. by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, who bases a whole product line on a "faking out" feature.
    I'm no fan of DRM, and wish iTunes was more open to other devices, but to publish a whole iPhone "killer" on a kludge is just asking for trouble.

    WTF are consumers going to do when Apple pushes an update that breaks this (intentionally, or not) and all of a sudden this marvelous sync stops working?

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  5. Re:Sue Those Monopolistic Apple Bastards! by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was with you up until the DRM part. The iTunes store is almost entirely DRM-free by now.

    If you don't like AAC either, Amazon.com sells MP3 downloads that are cheaper than iTunes downloads, and has about the same selection. iTunes was once a monopoly, although Apple's DRM practices ironically ended that rather quickly.

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  6. Re:Sue Those Monopolistic Apple Bastards! by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I already view them as monopolistic bastards with their iTunes website & iTunes application & iTunes DRM & iPod/iPhone lock-in scheme.

    I guess you're entitled to view them as monopolists, but that doesn't mean that view accords with real world legal definitions. There are other sources for digital content online, and there are other players - Apple has a big chunk of the market, but by no means do they have total control - facts you note at the end of your post. Also, let's not forget that a big chunk of the pricing of content is driven by the deals the content providers are willing to cut with Apple - remember the recent change to a tiered pricing scheme from the $.99 for all music.

    How is Apple a monopoly, if we understand the term monopoly to mean something other than "a company you don't like/does things that displease you?"

  7. Speculation by jav1231 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Pure speculation here but what if during that whole patent debate that Palm and Apple had regarding touch technology Apple conceded to let the Pre sync? Just a thought.

    I mean I'm sure Apple told Palm, "Hey, you can't use multi-touch or anything like it."
    So Palm said, "Oh yeah? Browse our portfolio. We've highlighted a number of patents the iPod, Touch, and iPhone clearly violate."
    Apple: "Cross License?"
    Palm: "Sure! Oh, and we want to sync to iTunes."

  8. Coming soon.... by AdmiralXyz · · Score: 5, Funny

    iTunes 8.1.2, "fixes syncing issues"

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  9. Re:Sue Those Monopolistic Apple Bastards! by bennomatic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wish I had mod points because this is a smart response. I hate it when people use the word "monopoly" as a synonym for "I don't like them." If there's a real reason not to like Apple--even a bad one, like, "I always prefer the underdog," is better than none--then use it. Don't just call it a monopoly.

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  10. Anyone can do this and many have by macslut · · Score: 5, Informative

    That list, which is old, represents the 3rd party plugins which are bundled with iTunes by default. The SDK allows anyone to develop their own plugin. As someone else mentioned, Nokia has done this a long time ago. This could not be any more of a non-story. It's really bad reporting. It would've been more interesting to me if they had said that Palm made the Pre so that it could *not* sync music with iTunes. And the headline is incredibly misleading...it won't sync DRM music people may have in their libraries, and it won't sync movies, tv shows and most importantly apps purchased from iTunes. "This fight just got a lot more interesting." (sigh)

  11. Re:PALM PRE OMG by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm so damn tired of reading about the Palm Pre. It's everywhere, and it's annoying.

    Unlike the iPhone, which is hardly ever mentioned in the media...

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