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EU Wants Multiple Browser Bundling On New PCs

An anonymous reader writes with a link to Ars Technica's report that "the EU is considering forcing Windows users to choose a browser to download and install before they can first browse the Internet, according to The Wall Street Journal (subscription required). While the latest Windows 7 builds let you uninstall IE8, 'third-party browser makers like Opera, Mozilla and Google are pushing for tough sanctions against Microsoft. The EU would rather have a "ballot screen" for users to choose which browsers to download and install as well as which one to set as default. The bundling requirement might end up becoming a responsibility for manufacturers.'"

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  1. Forcing OEMs? by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The bundling requirement might end up becoming a responsibility for manufacturers.

    This is just as stupid as forcing Microsoft to bundle alternative browser binaries with Windows.

    The solution to the problem is to force Microsoft to allow OEMs to bundle other browsers with Windows the same way they do anything else. Microsoft's dictating what software can be included with Windows is the real anti-competitive behavior here -- so fix it by removing that behavior. If Dell wants to include Firefox, let them. If Opera wants to sign a deal with HP to include its browser on all their machines, let them.

    Don't force all OEMs to include all browsers. That's stupid and impractical.

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    1. Re:Forcing OEMs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Microsoft's rules do not disallow OEMs bundling browsers.

      Believe it or not.

    2. Re:Forcing OEMs? by DurendalMac · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not anymore, but back when Netscape and IE were slugging it out it sure did. MS was threatening to pull Windows out from under any OEM that bundled Netscape with a new PC.

    3. Re:Forcing OEMs? by spire3661 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, it is those actions PRECISELY why we are in the situation we are in now. The argument is most certainly NOT moot. They used that illegal action to become the defacto browser, and now its time to pay at least lip service to the piper for it.

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  2. Bah Humbug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wont anybody think of the users. I dont want to have to make choices thats why I use Windows in the first place.

  3. Re:This could get (even more) stupid by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Except that, really, the Emacs option should be in the "Which Operating System Do You Want?" selection.

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  4. Re:This just cracks me up... by broken_chaos · · Score: 5, Informative

    Advertising revenue. Look up how Mozilla Corporation makes money from partnerships with, possibly among others, Google.

  5. Re:This just cracks me up... by eln · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Mozilla Foundation makes many tens of millions of dollars from Google. If nobody installs Firefox, Google isn't going to be giving them that kind of money anymore.

  6. Re:The EU is still beating this dead horse? by Hubbell · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you really think that this would change anything, you're naive as fuck and I got a nice bridge to sell you.

  7. Re:This just cracks me up... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...those other browsers are free so who cares if Windows users are forced to use IE?

    I do, because I'd rather be able to develop to standards and I'd rather Web technologies could move forward again instead of being held back by one, dominant, least common denominator browser.

  8. Re:The EU is still beating this dead horse? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know what would really be a monopolistic practice? If they made the hardware and then forced you to use their operating system on their hardware. Thank god that doesn't happen.

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  9. Re:The EU is still beating this dead horse? by supernova_hq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Come back after you've spent a week making a really nice, easy to use, easy on the eyes website to standards, then spent another week making it work in IE7, then another 3 weeks making it work in IE6 (yes lots of people still use that P.OS.)!

    Once you've done that, go to a country back east where ALL the banks got suckered into using ActiveX for their online transactions.

    THEN you can come back here and ask how bundling IE with windows hurt anyone.

  10. When Big Daddy Warbucks Leaves Town by westlake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Mozilla Foundation makes many tens of millions of dollars from Google. If nobody installs Firefox, Google isn't going to be giving them that kind of money anymore.

    Now that Google has its own platform in Chrome why does it need Mozilla?

  11. Re:This just cracks me up... by BenoitRen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google is not a monopoly. Stop pretending it is one.

    Having a choice as to what web browser to use is more important than you think. People will use the default one, which is a big part of how IE got such a large market share.